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Old 08-06-2011, 02:37 PM   #136
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Granted, Obama is a big pussy
Took 132 posts but looks like we finally truly agree
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Old 08-06-2011, 02:46 PM   #137
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Old 08-06-2011, 02:55 PM   #138
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I understand I did what both political parties do, taking something out of context, was well aware what you meant..

just having a little fun, don't take it so seriously

well maybe you ( we) all should, anyone watching the news the last few days knows how things are in the country.

because things in the country are simply fabulous today
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Old 08-06-2011, 03:03 PM   #139
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Carter was the worst President in our history next to the current Douche bag. Government does not create jobs.....Business owners that take a risk and an idea do....I think you do not understand how the government works. That shit has to pass the house and the senate first. Then the president has to sign it....Obama budget was such a piece of shit that the democrats and the republicans thought it sucked....You keep feeding this beast it is going to grow so big and your favorite thing called taxes will be so high we will only get an allowance. By the amount of bullshit you post up you have way more issues than me. Hey at least I admit that all sides of government is fucked up and we are all screwed. There is nothing anyone can do about it either. At least I am not delusional. Democracy is dead in this country.

All the references you post come from sources that all have a hard on for Obama. Everyone of them are gonna say that Obama is the victim if the situation turns bad for Obama. Man up and admit it he has fucked the credit rating it happened on his watch......

If raising taxes and we continue to spend and spend and spend. Then what is the limit 50%, 60%, or are we just working for the government??? Why did we leave England???? Taxed by a King thousands of miles away??? When our country started we did not even have taxes. When taxes were first introduced it was 5% on the wealthy and 3% for the rest.

Fifth grade math huh well maybe our government needs to understand that we are living beyond our means and cut back... I know that my bank will not cover checks that I write if I am at a negative balance. I am sure I got a firm grasp of how to add subtract. I understand negative numbers. Do you understand negative numbers Ftard. I think you have such a crush on the president that he could shit in your mouth and you would say it taste like pudding...

OK now go ahead post your book report and links to the NYtimes.....
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Old 08-06-2011, 03:21 PM   #140
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The reallity is that things just took a serious turn for the worst. Is it Obama's fault? I don't think so, but who really gives a shit anymore? It will be DECADES before we recover from this latest procrasitinating and lapse of judgement by our folks in Congress. We all are going to need to get very used to the word "austerity" and come to grips with the fact that as a nation we are no longer a beacon of hope for anyone, and wont be for some time to come, if ever again.
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Carter was the worst President in our history next to the current Douche bag. Government does not create jobs.....Business owners that take a risk and an idea do....I think you do not understand how the government works. That shit has to pass the house and the senate first. Then the president has to sign it....Obama budget was such a piece of shit that the democrats and the republicans thought it sucked....You keep feeding this beast it is going to grow so big and your favorite thing called taxes will be so high we will only get an allowance. By the amount of bullshit you post up you have way more issues than me. Hey at least I admit that all sides of government is fucked up and we are all screwed. There is nothing anyone can do about it either. At least I am not delusional. Democracy is dead in this country.

All the references you post come from sources that all have a hard on for Obama. Everyone of them are gonna say that Obama is the victim if the situation turns bad for Obama. Man up and admit it he has fucked the credit rating it happened on his watch......

If raising taxes and we continue to spend and spend and spend. Then what is the limit 50%, 60%, or are we just working for the government??? Why did we leave England???? Taxed by a King thousands of miles away??? When our country started we did not even have taxes. When taxes were first introduced it was 5% on the wealthy and 3% for the rest.

Fifth grade math huh well maybe our government needs to understand that we are living beyond our means and cut back... I know that my bank will not cover checks that I write if I am at a negative balance. I am sure I got a firm grasp of how to add subtract. I understand negative numbers. Do you understand negative numbers Ftard. I think you have such a crush on the president that he could shit in your mouth and you would say it taste like pudding...

OK now go ahead post your book report and links to the NYtimes.....

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Old 08-06-2011, 08:11 PM   #142
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1. Death of Osama Bin Laden was on his watch

2. Shifted the focus of the war from Iraq to Afghanistan, and putting the emphasis on reducing terrorism where it should have been all along

3. Relaxed Anti-American tensions throughout the world

4. Signed order to close the prisoner “torture camp” at Guantanamo Bay

5. Has made the environment a national priority, and a primary source for job creation

6. Has made education a national priority by putting emphasis and money behind new ideas like charter schools, but speaking directly to school children in telling them they have to do their part.

7. Won the Nobel Peace Prize

8. $789 billion economic stimulus plan

9. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court

10. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles

11. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans

12. Renewed dialogue with NATO and other allies and partners on strategic issues.

13. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force… this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.

14. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops

15. “Cash for clunkers” program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulates auto sales

16. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan

17. Closed offshore tax safe havens

18. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan

19. Ended media “blackout” on war casualties; reporting full information

20. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts

21. . Ended media blackout on war casualties and the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB.

22. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules

23. Ended previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings

24. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports

25. American Recovery and Reinvestment Act has created 2.1 million jobs (as of 12/31/09).

26. Ended previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions

27. Ended previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back

28. Ended previous policy on torture; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards

29. . Launched Recovery.gov to track spending from the Recovery Act, an unprecedented step to provide transparency and accountability through technology.

30. Ended previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices

31. Ended previous “stop-loss” policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date

32. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources

33. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient

34. Established a new cyber security office

35. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children

36. Expanding vaccination programs

37. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses

38. . Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with more than $1.4 billion to improve services to America’s Veterans.

39. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research

40. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools

41. Responded with compassion and leadership to the earthquake in Haiti

42. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters

43. . Launched Business.gov – enabling conversation and online collaboration between small business owners, government representatives and industry experts in discussion forums relevant to starting and managing a business. Great for the economy.

44. Improved housing for military personnel

45. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals

46. Changed failing war strategy in Afghanistan.

47. Improving benefits for veterans

48. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants…) after years of neglect

49. Donated his $1.4 million Nobel Prize to nonprofits.

50. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program

51. Provided tax credits to first-time home buyers through the Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009 to revitalize the U.S. housing market.

52. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel

53. Increasing student loans

54. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return “home” to visit loved ones

55. Cracked down on companies that deny sick pay, vacation and health insurance to workers by abusing the employee classification of independent contractor. Such companies also avoid paying Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance taxes for those workers.

56. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000

57. Limits on lobbyists’ access to the White House

58. Protected 300,000 education jobs, such as teachers, principals, librarians, and counselors through the Recovery Act that would have otherwise been lost.

59. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration

60. Children’s Health Insurance Reauthorization Act on February 4, 2009, provides quality health care to 11 million kids – 4 million who were previously uninsured.

61. Lower drug costs for seniors

62. Making more loans available to small businesses

63. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration

64. . Signed the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act, the first piece of comprehensive legislation aimed at improving the lives of Americans living with paralysis

65. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals

66. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans

67. Announced creation of a Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record for members of the U.S. Armed Forces to improve quality of medical care.

68. New federal funding for science and research labs

69. New funds for school construction

70. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending

71. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices

72. . Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals.

73. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan

74. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions

75. Provided tax credit to workers thus cutting taxes for 95% of America’s working families.

76. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic

77. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research

78. . Helped reverse a downward spiral of the stock market. On January 19, 2009, the last day of President Bush’s presidency, the Dow closed at 8,218.22. In February 2010, the Dow closed at 10,309.24

79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel

80. Restarted the nuclear non-proliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols

81. Provided attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles.

82. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters

83. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy

84. Unveiled a program on Earth Day 2009 to develop the renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents. These regulations will enable, for the first time ever, the nation to tap into our ocean’s vast sustainable resources to generate clean energy in an environmentally sound and safe manner.

85. Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program

86. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards

87. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced

88. Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job

89. The FDA is now regulating tobacco

90. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date.

91. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010

92. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying

93. The “secret detention” facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed

94. US financial and banking rescue plan

95. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast

96. . Signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop fraud and wasteful spending in the defense procurement and contracting system.

97. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office

98. Improved relations with Iran

99. Improved U.S. policy on climate change

100. Set timetable for exiting Iraq (already started removing troops)

101. Improved relations with Russia

102. Improved relations with the Islamic World

103. Made progress towards greater cooperation on limiting nuclear proliferation

104. Economic stimulus plan has created jobs. (Unemployment rate decreasing)

105. Drastically slowed down the recession

106. Saved Wall Street

107. Passed the Lilly Ledbetter Act (equal work for equal pay) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilly_L...ay_Act_of_2009

108. HEALTH CARE REFORM

This is a lot to accomplish in such a short amount of time. He was elected President, he wasn’t elected Jesus.

As far as MY health plan goes....I CANNOT GET ONE! I have been denied health insurance by 19 health insurance companies because of a pre-exisiting thyroid condition. (Which is a very common diagnosis throughout the nation).
I make too much money to qualify for Medicaid. Not that I would want Medicaid. I would much rather contribute to my own care. It's not that I can't afford insurance. I would love to pay for health insurance. I DREAM about having health care. And there are millions of Americans in my same situation. We have the money to pay for insurance but no one will let us have it.
Don't you understand that if people in my situation (36% of Americans with pre-existing conditions who cannot get health care) contributed to health care we would not even have a health care crises? I'm tired of hearing people complaining about their health care costs going up. Just be thankful you have it.
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Old 08-07-2011, 01:09 AM   #143
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Sorry Kimberly, A whole bunch of your list is flat- out not true. For example, the LA Times reported just recently...
The Democrat argues that his administration needs more time to straighten out the economic mess left by somebody else, who's been gone almost 900 days now.

But good news this morning: The challenging Obama era and 9.1% national unemployment rate do not include the 454 people now helping President Obama do presidential things.

This crowd is being paid a total of $37,121,463 this year. That's up seven staff members and nearly $4 million from 2008, the last year of George W. Bush's presidency.

Fully 141 Obama aides -- or nearly one-in-three -- earn more than $100,000 a year. That's also up from the 130 with that scale salary in Bush's last year.

Twenty-one Obama aides earn the top-dollar $172,200.

The staff names and salaries report, required annually by Congress, was released on Friday by the White House. The timing, however, was probably an accident because last Friday most Americans were not watching the news closely and were thinking of not working for a three-day holiday weekend.

Because Americans would no doubt be pleased to know of the Obama staff's economic success amid the bleak national scene for so many others, we saved the information for today, when most Americans who are still employed are back at their own jobs and can share the joy.

The 2011 White House salary report does not include mention of the 41 unidentified Obama staff members who owe the Internal Revenue Service $831,000 in back taxes. That report came out last fall (Scroll down


Here's a link to the whole story...


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...ries-soar.html
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Old 08-07-2011, 01:15 AM   #144
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Is this what you mean by improved relations with Russia? Ha ha ha


In the past four years, Russia’s intelligence services have stepped up a campaign of intimidation and dirty tricks against U.S. officials and diplomats in Russia and the countries that used to form the Soviet Union.

U.S. diplomats and officials have found their homes broken into and vandalized, or altered in ways as trivial as bathroom use; faced anonymous or veiled threats; and in some cases found themselves set up in compromising photos or videos that are later leaked to the local press and presented as a sex scandal.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...pite-us-reset/
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Old 08-07-2011, 01:25 AM   #145
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And I noticed you didn't mention his latest stroke of malfeasance, along with his Sec. of Treasury Geitner.... drum roll please. Presided over the first ever downgrade of our nation's credit rating. First ever! And just a couple of weeks ago he trotted Git-ner out to say on the news shows that, "no way will we be downgraded".

Better check your facts sister!
There are a bunch more in your list which are blatantly false. I simply have not the time nor the desire to educate those who are unwilling to do even a modicum of research for themselves.
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As a recent yet former service member I would like to inform those of you think that Obama had anything to do with actually getting Bin Laden, you are mistaken. He simply made the decision to finally do it in an attempt for re-election and upping approval.
Don't be naive, he is a politician nothing more. I'm not going to that W did a great job either. Both have fucked this country up good and neither had too much to work with in a lot of ways. Obama is far from a good president IMHO but I don't blame him. I blame those who ignorantly voted for him. Myself I look at voting strategically, I NEVER vote for the one I want to win(mainly because I distrust all of them). I ALWAYS vote against the one I'm certain that I don't want to win

In addition I want to mention that poor bastard that went spectacularly bat shit crazy in that thread "Fuck these forums". He is a perfect example of why free health care is fucked and a really really really bad idea, obviously had to wait to see a specialist which is by referral only btw. He didn't get the attention needed in a timely manner so no meds and look he went fuckin flippers publicly.
Oh and yes I do know what free health care entails. Remember I was military and that's the way it's handled in the military and it's shit. I was wounded on more than one occasion and even then I had to wait to see the proper doctor which is again, by referral only.

Obama's biggest accomplishment is that he has destroyed America, in fact all but lot it on fucking fire!!

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And thank you for your service.

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As a recent yet former service member I would like to inform those of you think that Obama had anything to do with actually getting Bin Laden, you are mistaken. Obama's biggest accomplishment is that he has destroyed America, in fact all but lot it on fucking fire!!

Ok. Rant complete thanks for the podium, I'll get down now
3mils-right, I also thank you for your service.

With that said I have a dramatically different perspective than you. Your statement that Obama has destroyed America and alluding to that being an accomplishment, is quite curious. He has certainly done things that I disagree with but he has not "destroyed America." Even if that ridiculous claim were true, it is certainly not an "accomplishment." Perhaps you made the statement in jest but if so........ well, you get the picture, I'm sure!

As a not so recent (1969-1973) U.S. Army (Vietnam) Veteran I do not believe it is in our country's best interest for the Commander in Chief to carry out the actual mission. Although I firmly believe each would do so if they felt it was the only chance for victory. With that said, it is solely
their responsibility to make "the final decision." Harry S. Truman " made the final decision" in 1945 and Barack Obama "made the final decision" in 2011. I am extremely proud of both for having made the correct decision. When "the final decision" proves to be wrong, American lives are lost. The loss of American lives is the heaviest burden for the POTUS to carry. Fortunately when Truman and Obama made their respective final decisions, they both made the correct decision! For that I applaud them both!

As for "Obama's biggest accomplishment," I am convinced that it is having (thus far) kept this country out of the 2nd Great Depression. We were perilously close when he took office. The economic conditions on January 20, 2009 were the worst inherited by any POTUS since FDR took office in 1932. As with FDR before him, digging out of an economic disaster is not easy. It does not take days, weeks or months. It takes years! It was not until the 1940's before America dug its way out of the Great Depression. We are obviously not out of the woods yet but we are better off today than we were on September 15, 2008.

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Sorry Kimberly, A whole bunch of your list is flat- out not true.
It's one thing to say "a whole bunch" of a list is not true. It's another to challenge the information with some sort of supporting information to back that claim. Way to make an effort there Dude. You know what else is flat-out not true? The earth is not round. I read it in a blog just this morning!

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For example, the LA Times reported just recently...
The Democrat argues that his administration needs more time to straighten out the economic mess left by somebody else, who's been gone almost 900 days now.
900 days = 2.4 years. How long do you suppose it should take someone to fix something that took 8 years screw up? It's going to be decades if at all, no matter who's in the White House, better get used to it.

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But good news this morning: The challenging Obama era and 9.1% national unemployment rate do not include the 454 people now helping President Obama do presidential things.
Last I heard, getting paid to help someone do things is called a job. Glad to see Obama is doing his part to provide employment and help our economy. Far more than Congress is doing to help that situation at the moment.
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As a recent yet former service member I would like to inform those of you think that Obama had anything to do with actually getting Bin Laden, you are mistaken. He simply made the decision to finally do it in an attempt for re-election and upping approval.
Don't be naive, he is a politician nothing more. I'm not going to that W did a great job either. Both have fucked this country up good and neither had too much to work with in a lot of ways. Obama is far from a good president IMHO but I don't blame him. I blame those who ignorantly voted for him. Myself I look at voting strategically, I NEVER vote for the one I want to win(mainly because I distrust all of them). I ALWAYS vote against the one I'm certain that I don't want to win

In addition I want to mention that poor bastard that went spectacularly bat shit crazy in that thread "Fuck these forums". He is a perfect example of why free health care is fucked and a really really really bad idea, obviously had to wait to see a specialist which is by referral only btw. He didn't get the attention needed in a timely manner so no meds and look he went fuckin flippers publicly.
Oh and yes I do know what free health care entails. Remember I was military and that's the way it's handled in the military and it's shit. I was wounded on more than one occasion and even then I had to wait to see the proper doctor which is again, by referral only.

Obama's biggest accomplishment is that he has destroyed America, in fact all but lot it on fucking fire!!

Ok. Rant complete thanks for the podium, I'll get down now
Yeah, OK Michelle. Your thirty seconds are up now. Please step away from the microphone.

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