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Old 06-26-2012, 07:52 PM   #136
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Reality is overrated; it's just a crutch for people who can't deal with hard drugs.

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Life is but a stage , William said....
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:51 AM   #137
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To answer Ekim; knowing that Saddam was lying maybe would have stopped the war but Saddam was already in noncompliance. Bush asked for the authority to take any and all action which was approved by the Congress. Once again, no one credible has shown any proof that Bush lied or the intelligence agencies lied. Surprising as hell, they got snookered. Still we can go back to where did the weapons go? The smart money says Syria and that may be the reason the White House and democratic party (Hillary) want to keep Assad in power if he can do it himself. So we will not help him, nor do we seem to want to oppose hiim.

Give it up hedge hog, Plame was not covert and her husband lied to Bush about the yellowcake in Niger. We covered this all last week. Weren't you paying attention? It would keep you from embarassing yourself if you kept up.
Curveball ( an Iraqi-Iranian contact with links to the Iranian govt.) was largely involved in the deception. He told them what they wanted to hear..... I forgot his name, but was revealed after the fact.

The biggest liar was Saddam himself, claimed he had wmd. he was playing macho chicken when it backfired on him. I understand why he did it. It is an Arab macho thing to be seen as strong, not weak in the eyes of the arab world.
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:21 AM   #138
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But you do still think reality is overrated?
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:59 AM   #139
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But you do still think reality is overrated?
Why don't you try it once, Doofie, and make up your own mind?

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Old 06-28-2012, 01:05 PM   #140
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Curveball ( an Iraqi-Iranian contact with links to the Iranian govt.) was largely involved in the deception. He told them what they wanted to hear..... I forgot his name, but was revealed after the fact.

The biggest liar was Saddam himself, claimed he had wmd. he was playing macho chicken when it backfired on him. I understand why he did it. It is an Arab macho thing to be seen as strong, not weak in the eyes of the arab world.
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There are smart cops and dumb cops...the dumb and inexperienced fall for the Death by Cop Crapola.
Funny, it's usually the dead guy -- the one that fucked-up really badly -- who gets the credit for being dumbest.
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History will not be kind to the folks that make the wrong choice when a nation was watching. Bush will go down as a bassackwards Neville Chamberlain...
Agreed! Another fine analogy, but you'll probably try to change it again now that you realize you've said what I've been saying all along: Bush was wrong but not a liar -- just like Chamberlain.
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Old 06-28-2012, 02:06 PM   #141
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the president took the country to war because saddam lied and punked him? any idea how sophomoric that actually sounds? .. might as well shit in W's soup and tell him its brown carrots..

as stupid as bush is its easy to believe some raghead punked his dumbass, but testimony by several CIA agents and the timelines involved cearly prove bush knew there was nothing to find ... exactly what we found.
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Old 06-28-2012, 02:31 PM   #142
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the president took the country to war because saddam lied and punked him? any idea how sophomoric that actually sounds? .. might as well shit in W's soup and tell him its brown carrots..

as stupid as bush is its easy to believe some raghead punked his dumbass, but testimony by several CIA agents and the timelines involved cearly prove bush knew there was nothing to find ... exactly what we found.
Previously you claimed "two" CIA agents had different info, and now you are claiming "several" CIA agents had different info -- you're suffering from "mission creep", CBJ7 -- but that's just because you are a creep. BTW, CBJ7, Saddam isn't the only "lying punk", it's obvious you are giving him a run for his money. Bush acted on poor intel, but on the other hand, you sure as hell are a liar.
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Old 06-28-2012, 02:35 PM   #143
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Previously you claimed "two" CIA agents had different info, and now you are claiming "several" CIA agents had different info -- you're suffering from "mission creep", CBJ7 -- but that's just because you are a creep. BTW, CBJ7, Saddam isn't the only "lying punk", it's obvious you are giving him a run for his money. Bush acted on poor intel, but on the other hand, you sure as hell are a liar.

several (more than 1) here and on the ground in Iraq ...


would you care for some more carrots IB?
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Old 06-28-2012, 02:37 PM   #144
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several (more than 1) here and on the ground in Iraq ...


would you care for some more carrots IB?
Yeah, you're a liar, CBJ7, and your opinion still doesn't mean shit.
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Agreed! Another fine analogy, but you'll probably try to change it again now that you realize you've said what I've been saying all along: Bush was wrong but not a liar -- just like Chamberlain.
I said it was a lie. I didn't say Bush was a liar.

I like George. He was caught up in a bad situtation. Made a bad choice but hindsight is always 20/20.
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some third world puke raghead bitch PUNKED THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

Should be a campaign slogan for the GOP


more carrots, yea or ney ?
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I said it was a lie. I didn't say Bush was a liar.

I like George. He was caught up in a bad situtation. Made a bad choice but hindsight is always 20/20.





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some third world puke raghead bitch PUNKED THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

Should be a campaign slogan for the GOP


more carrots, yea or ney ?
Read the CIA reports, they put a great deal of the blame on Slick Willie for cutting their budget. Was Slick Willie a 'raghead bitch', or are you just singing a new troll-tune now that you realize your 'opinion' doesn't mean jack-shit when weighed against the evidence of facts. The WMD Commission and the Butler Report still stand solid against your opinion, CBJ7.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:39 PM   #148
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Read the CIA reports, they put a great deal of the blame on Slick Willie for cutting their budget. Was Slick Willie a 'raghead bitch', or are you just singing a new troll-tune now that you realize your 'opinion' doesn't mean jack-shit when weighed against the evidence of facts. The WMD Commission and the Butler Report still stand solid against your opinion, CBJ7.

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


SLICK WILLIE'S FAULT !!!!


Gwad IB, youre totally pathetic.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:43 PM   #149
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AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


SLICK WILLIE'S FAULT !!!!


Gwad IB, youre totally pathetic.
You kept going on, and on, about some "rag-head" punk? You weren't talking about Slick Willie, CBJ7?
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:34 PM   #150
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If Saddam was running a bluff to convince the world that he had WMD's, when did not. If America invaded Iraq because we believed his bluff, then it was suicide by cop.

In a suicide by cop scenario, the police officer is not to blame. If someone points an unloaded gun at a police officer, the officer has every right to shoot the person pointing the unloaded gun at him. He has to assume the gun is loaded. America is not to blame for calling Saddam's bluff, if that's what it was.
I wouldn't call what Saddam did the equivalent of "suicide" by military". he clearly expected more bloviating from the bush administration rather than military action.
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