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[Guest030911]

Nice sig line, Ms. Foster.


If it weren't for the stupid people who post, how would the smart ones know they are smarter?

[Chevalier]

Originally Posted by omaha2dallas

And all opinions shoud be welcome. . . . Everyone should be polite and respectful of other people's opinions.

No, no, a thousand times no.

I am not suggesting we should prohibit anyone from posting, and I rarely complain publicly about annoying posts. But there are a hell of a lot of opinions posted here that I don't respect and don't welcome. (Just as a lot of folks don't respect and don't welcome my rare forays into discussions. ) The freedom to post drivel and filth does not mean we have to respect and welcome it.

I just don't think there's a significant correlations between "idiot likely to post an opinion that I don't respect and don't welcome" and sex/gender. Plenty of annoying folks, and plenty of interesting folks, on both sides of the aisle.

(Actually I'm not as grumpy at the moment as I sound. Just had a marvelous afternoon with a very special lady and I'm about as mellow as an opinionated curmudgeon ever gets.)

[Guest062124]

Originally Posted by cpi3000

Nice sig line, Ms. Foster.

Great minds think alike, CPI.

[Judge Smails]

Its a bit like a warning on a pack of cigarettes. I always take a deep breath and remind myself this is fun. If I want to get into an argument or get my ass kicked, plenty of political/sports blogs/ boards to go visit and light it up.

Its early Sat am, lets get laid.

[Randall Creed]

I haven't read every word of this thread, but I'll say this: If you don't like the ladies posting on the board, either quit or put ALL of the providers on ignore. That way you can jack off to what the guys are saying, since apparently you want nothing to do with the women.

Besides ogling their bodies all day (Oh, I wanna lick ice cream off tracibrooks' ass), I enjoy reading what the ladies have to say, even if it's a threAD sometimes. Big fucking deal. Hell, guys post threADs all the time, talking about "I just shaved for the first time. Who wants to lick my balls?" or "Who's the best at DT?". Same as a fucking ad. What the hell!

Ladies posting gives necessary balance to the board. I don't wanna circle jerk with dudes all day. If I want that, I'll just stay at work or something. The ladies rock. I just wish they'd give out more freebies.

[Jules Jaguar]

Originally Posted by Judge Smails

Its a bit like a warning on a pack of cigarettes. I always take a deep breath and remind myself this is fun. If I want to get into an argument or get my ass kicked, plenty of political/sports blogs/ boards to go visit and light it up.

Its early Sat am, lets get laid.

amen to that

[Randy4Candy]

Hell, I wouldn't have seen 1/10 of the providers I have seen if they didn't post in Co-ed or were at least semi Chat-HO'S. I like the more interactive types of sessions and I have found that is best done with someone who has it going on upstairs and is not narcissistic to the point of starring in her own little delusional porno. The only way I have found to get some sort of a sense of that is to see how they lady expresses herself and it certainly helps if they have their contact and other info in their sig line. Certainly any time a lady posts she is calling attention to herself so, techincally I guess, it's an ad but it's really not if it pertains to the topic of the thread regardless of how well or not it is written. The content will speak for itself (that's the THERE there I referred to earlier).

Now, the transparent threADs that are obviously "LOOK AT ME" are bullshit and the other providers who are trying to follow the rules should be pissed that they are allowed. This ain't CL or BP, though a whole lot of even the older ladies started there and moved along - hopefully "up" - , because many of the very ladies here offer something very nice and, upon occasion, special that I don't think is offered there in abundance like it is here. The L-A-M threads along with the accompanying *) hI i'M ,^}| fUCk mE !#5: CAuSe whatever for how ever many chickens, oxen, lillies, geese, turnips, etc. etc. are pretty useLEss.

99% of the female posts to this thread, other than the usual gigs at men, are proof of how well they ad to and advance discussions.

[jfred]

Originally Posted by Rambro Creed

...either quit or put ALL of the providers on ignore...since apparently you want nothing to do with the women.

Seems kind of severe to me, Brother Creed. Are you naturally hysterical, or just on this subject?

Would you mind showing me where anyone (prior to yourself) said anything like that? How did you come up with that?

...Hell, guys post threADs all the time...Same as a fucking ad...

It's true that threads are started (or hijacked) by guys who seem to want erotic conversations with women, and they hope that the chirpies will chime in. There's a place for that in Discussions, obviously, ...some erotic exchange spices things up nicely. But some of us find sexual silliness, without the slightest subtlety, not very stimulating. Shame on those who blatantly usurp the Discussions Forum as a personal erotic chat board, without any regard for the unwilling witnesses.

I'd respectfully disagree on your statement that it's the same when guys do it. Guys aren't in competition here, women are. Do some women choose to post and thereby increase their conspicuity? Hey, if they even occasionally have something to say, may their tribe increase! But get this: When women do it, it is unfair to other women who have the class to at least play within the shadow of the rules. (If you respond in disagreement, please respond specifically to this question of fair play.)

That way you can jack off to what the guys are saying...I don't wanna circle jerk with dudes all day...

Well, I started on this above -- Please don't hold this forum hostage to your jacking off all day to what the girls say.

Here's my point on this: (If you respond in disagreement, please respond specifically to this.) This is the Discussion Forum. Read what it says up above about what it's for, please. I don't think it's too far afield to expect that those who participate here (especially initiating discussions) to (1) keep on topics of hobby-related interest that are broader than their own forehead, (2) give enough thought to be at least somewhat thought provoking, and (3) muster enough wit to occasionally say something genuinely entertaining.

What part of that do you disagree with? And before you answer that, let me say that, happily, this comprehensive website provides all sorts of other avenues and tools for those who primarily want to (1) promote their businesses, or (2) flirt with women while looking at their photos and masturbating (or otherwise engaging in actual sexual self-gratification or foreplay). Send PM's, go to Chat. I know it takes a few more steps, but sweet jesus, give us a break! (Do you know that Chat has a feature where the lady can post a photo for you right there while you're talking to her? It's cool!)

Besides ogling their bodies all day (Oh, I wanna lick ice cream off tracibrooks' ass)...The ladies rock. I just wish they'd give out more freebies.

Does it arouse you to look at her avatar and say that to traci? I'm just kidding.

You should put that about freebies in your sig line, RC. There are websites where a man such as yourself can engage the time of young women who will provide photos or video and engage you in erotic conversation for as looong as your dick stays hard. But they're not free, and you like your freebies.

I'm glad that eccie has ways for you to do your thing at minimal cost. There's a place for everyone here. But I'd just like to discourage that sort of thing in this particular forum, along with mind-numbing threADs by girls acting silly. (To head off a straw-man response, let me quickly add that those same ladies would be most welcome as bona fide participants in any hobby-related discussion they found thought provoking.

That's all.

[Boltfan]

I coined a new hobby acronym back in the day, IOI.

Illusion of Intelligence.

[Guest050911]

Well,

As someone that has the job of reading a lot of posts here... Would I like more interesting, gripping tales and enlightening dialog to review? You Bet your sweet Bippy ....

I do love to read the viewpoints of all, even those that I disagree with...

Would I like to have less threADs to read and apply corrective action to, Yes. Would I like the ladies not to post? Resounding No.

I take the stance of, if you don't like the thread, do:

A) Hit RTM button if it is a threAD or
B) Move on.

It is a pain to sort through the threads that seem to have no value, but to me, seeing how someone posts and how they take feedback is a valuable tool. If they do it 1 time, then apologize and realize that they made a mistake, no harm. If they continue to post as they have, it gives me info on their mind and our compatibility. All good info.

Not everyone here is blessed with JFred's eloquence and command of diction. And Lord knows I have had a conversation or 1200 with several here who post in rude, vulgar or demeaning ways. I find that much more intolerable than "I have a new Cell Phone".

I do believe we have become very quick to jump on people and way more intolerant of missteps here than we used to be. We all need to take a deep, cleansing breath and try to remember that this is supposed to be Fun. Not supposed to raise my blood pressure other than seeing a picture of a sweet lady that I would love to molest....

So, when ya wanna rip into someone, please try to do so without any attacks on them, and a respectful comment on what it is that they did incorrectly or you disagree with or dislike. I expect and (Hopefully) deserve respect, as we all do so please give everyone respect.

Go get ya some ice cream and an ass to lick it off (oh Traci, Reese, Dannie, Lisa Lisa - if I missed anyone, my apology!), and then post a thought provoking thread on what flavor is best for that activity.

PPE

(This message is a personal opinion of PPE and does not reflect any official position of ECCIE or it's staff).

[Matador]

I enjoyed reading your first post. I also enjoyed PPE's take on this subject.

I can admire the command of the language that a few individuals posses. It is my belief that they do provide a good value to the different topics discussed in the coed forums, every time they choose to participate. I think that they are looking for more stimulating conversation in a forum that is not well suited for that purpose though.

I thought about subjects that come up for discussion every now and then in this forum. Threads about smoking issues was one of the first things that I thought of. Normally, when smoking before, during and after a session are discussed, you'll hear people expressing their acceptance of said behavior, and the other group will express their disdain and how they think it is a gross habit to have.

For comparison, I went to the Diamonds and Tuxedos forum to see if the subject had been discussed. I was lucky to find a recent thread about smoking a kissing. A lady there started the thread and after sharing her take on the issue, asked the following question for the members to discuss:

How do other providers and hobbyists feel about the whole smoking issue?

Alex

The first reply was a one-liner. Then the second reply got my attention quickly. I am quoting the first paragraph not to ridicule or disparage the gentleman, I am simply using this as a comparison to the discussions that take place in this forum:

Originally posted by Laurentius
She's my GF for a couple of hours, not my wife
I'm not a regular or even social smoker (though I will rarely take a puff), nevertheless I believe, given the widespread use of tobacco in past eras in this country, that a great deal of aversion to the practice is based upon psychopathologization of smoking moreso than its actual organoleptic qualities. Remember, about 99% of anything is between one's ears; and perception is seriously colored by our software.

*My highlight for emphasis*

http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=449541&postcount=3

My first reaction was: "WTF? Was it really nec...." and then I stopped myself because I realized I was about to judge the guy. I couldn't help but wonder how many nipples got hard after reading those words? That part of me I could not control.

After reading that quote, how many people here feel that there is a "need" to start using sesquipedalian words to communicate in this forum? I am no wordsmith, but I think that using obscure and long words would take away from the discussion here.

To the members here who are part of the Elite ( used with respect):

I am referring to the guys who are the professionals, the high achievers. What you have achieved is commendable and you deserve to enjoy the fruits of your success. Many of you invested long years of dedication to reach for the stars. There is not telling how much wealth you spent in attaining your education and in reality that is none of our business. You saw the value in investing in yourself and did it. Congratulations to each of you individually and as a group.

Many of you are into management in the corporate world, others are partners in a firm and still others have their own private practices. Whatever group you happen to fit into, I am certain that as a professional, you interact with people who are highly educated and with whom you can communicate with clarity and precision. I wouldn't blame you one bit if you had high expectations from those who interact with you on a professional basis.

Once you step outside your professional environment, you must admit the less educated world that surrounds you, can't meet the expectations that you have in your professional world.

ECCIE Membership ( Everyone with an active handle ):

What do we all have in common? Taking as broad a view as I can think of, it is my belief that under the microscope of our society, we are judged as being sexual perverts. Under the laws of Texas, if the tales posted here were true, we would be considered criminals and sexual deviants. Beyond that point, we have all decided to establish an account here and choose to participate freely under the forum guidelines.

There will be many members who have similar backgrounds and have similar interest in erotic pleasures, but as a whole, the board will include all backgrounds and demographics that you may encounter in the DFW Metro area. That means that there will be active members here that you have nothing in common with, that will be in "close proximity to you," if you read this forum.

Who are the ladies? All Verified Provides and registered female handles:

There are some very intelligent women who participate here and enrich the discussions with their contributions. The percentage of them who choose to participate is very small. Many are simply too busy to get online and post their views in discussions. There is a very large number who has seen the treatment others get, and have simply decided that it isn't worth it to put themselves out there and be subjected to abuse and ridicule for expressing their views.

Who are the new ladies joining the board? Most of them are young, barely of legal age , and not yet wise about the world. Some of them maybe from good ( middle class) background, but it isn't out of the ordinary to find runaways and other young girls with no one to turn to for help. If you are in doubt, check the Welcome Wagon. Also, you can see some posts where it seems as if there are managers posting the ads.

How much background do we get to see about the new ladies?Very little beyond what is volunteered in the thread and whatever is shared in their first reviews. There is usually no way to tell if the lady is very articulate or not since no one knows initially if she is the one posting the ads.

Expectations:

The main issue here is what should be a real expectation for the level of discourse the new girls should bring to the forum? And exploring it a little deeper, under what authority do we get to dictate the guidelines? We don't know what their past is like. We don't know why they are lacking in education. But how do we go from pointing out the obvious, i.e. lack of education ( did they even finish school?), to silencing their opinions. Just so that I am not hypocritical, I do get annoyed by some young posters. I choose to skip their threads and go on about my day, but I won't claim that I am without fault.

Live and let live:

When you ridicule a young lady because of a thread, you are perhaps inadvertently ( and I put a huge emphasis on that ) repressing her as an individual, by silencing her opinion. It may be a soft repression but it is still there. I don't think this is done with any malice and is instead the result of trying to elevate the level of discussion when the foundations for it are not all in place. At least not with it being all inclusive. Any wordsmith who thinks he can offer a more accurate word for soft repression feel free to chime in.

This board is too diverse to cater to specific tastes in the coed forums. I see where there is a real niche market for a new forum for Cum Laude Companions. I had thought about using Mensa Companions but I figured Mensa International would take exception to that idea.

For those who choose to participate freely in this forum, remember this is not a professional environment. The description of the forum is a nice idea but in the end, every individual would have certain limitations to achieve that goal.

I would hope that all the highly educated individuals learn to adapt and maybe skip the threads that they find no use for. It would be sad to see some of you go silent because a desire that was not met.

I am getting off my soap box now. Whew

[Chevalier]

Matador,

Since my perspective may not have been clear from my earlier comment . . .

I am a professional. Not the most highly educated here, I'm sure, but have a graduate degree. At work, I deal with a lot of people who are articulate (not at all the same as "using a lot of big words) and capable of sophisticated thought. And some people who are not. I don't expect that from everyone and don't necessarily look down on people who lack that.

There are some posters and some posts I don't respect or welcome. But it's generally not because we don't speak similarly or share similar opinions. Hell, arguing (calmly) and exploring differences of opinion is better than bland threads where everyone has exactly the same opinion. In my opinion.

What annoys me are people who can't even communicate anywhere close to coherently (say, less than we should expect of a high school graduate) and don't even seem to make an effort to communicate clearly. People who demonstrate a complete lack of logic and common sense. (Circulating emails with extreme and not-very-believable statements that most people should realize aren't believable even before checking snopes.com is but one example and there are others much more illogical.) People who post nasty and mean-spirited crap on a regular basis. People who stereotype others, whether race, gender, political persuasion, age, etc. People who seem incapble of having, let alone expressing, a thought beyond the banal. And perhaps a few other categories.

Incoherence I usually just pass by without comment. It's not something that they can change and it doesn't hurt that much (except my brain if I try to figure it out). Ditto those who never have interesting to say. They don't contribute anything I value, but neither do their posts harm anyone. Live and let live. They (and many others) likely don't see anything of value in my posts.

But some of the other categories? I don't do it tremendously often, but I think it's entirely appropriate to respond to such comments.

Point out the illogical and erroneous, because challenging such is what the marketplace of ideas is all about. (OK, I rarely convince anyone, but in principle.) Not applicable to issues of religion or politics, because those NEVER convince people.

And, yes, challenge and DISCOURAGE messages of misogyny (look it up -- it's common enough here that everyone should learn the term), prejudice, and hate. (As opposed to rare venting and expressions of anger that differ from a person's normal personality; everyone deserves some slack for occasional outbursts). And messages whose ONLY purpose seems to be to stir discord and disharmony. And people of poor character, who aren't concerned about the consequences of their actions. I don't apologize for wishing those would disappear. I have no desire to be around people like that.

I fully recognize that any such responses I make are unlikely to make things better and quite possibly will make things worse. That's why I don't post often and read very little. The crap won't annoy me if I don't read it. And if I don't post, I won't annoy others. (Yeah, I know, I shouldn't even post this. And this is fair game for y'all to express your disapproval.)

[looiecypher]

Wow! I didn't expect to get such varied and detailed responses when I started this thread.
Thanks to all who have posted so far.

[guest043013-2]

Originally Posted by reese foster

...
If you want a hole......I am sure there are plenty of them around and probably at a cheaper price. The fine ladies of this board are not holes that need desperately to be filled. We are human and we have opinions and we are emotional. Last I heard, that is why we fit so well with the male species....that is what they desire..... soft, feminine, emotional creatures.

Reese, I think I used almost those exact words on another board a few years ago.

(Actually, I think the way I used it might have been a little more crude, but the idea was the same.)