Oh to be free...

[bluffcityguy]

Originally Posted by MrGiz

Not really trying to be argumentative here....

In my experience, the words "I'm not [insert whatever speaker/writer is not being]" flag that the speaker/writer is being just that. However, you're entitled here to be argumentative, and well within your rights to ask:

Originally Posted by MrGiz

but do you have any statistical data to support those opinions?

Not at my fingertips. I think I might be able to dig them up if I had time to do so, but unfortunately I don't.

My recollection is that "inevitable arrest" is close to if not an exact quote from one of the studies I've read on the subject. Such studies covered the entire spectrum of the profession from streetwalkers to high dollar hotties. Over the entire spectrum, the chances of arrest are quite high. Most likely, those chances are heavily influenced by the fact that ladies at the lower end of the spectrum (streetwalkers, strippers who regularly provide "takeout", and BP/CL girls) get arrested at higher rates than the higher class ladies. But still, it can happen to anyone, as some ladies on this very site can testify...

Cheers,

bcg

[bluffcityguy]

Originally Posted by hyperkine

Actual legal costs are part of it but I think physical and social risks are most of it. Providers have to deal with the increased risk of being ripped off, robbed, beaten, raped, murdered, fighting off pimps/being pimped, occasional imprisonment etc...plus there's something more of a social stigma here. All these very negative things wouldn't disappear with legalization but surely they'd all be greatly reduced.

I used lawyer's fees as an example. All the other non-monetary costs you mention are certainly factors too. Bottom line, these non-monetary costs still raise the rates charged because the ladies in question will want a greater return to engage in the profession when they have to deal with these risks, than they would want if these risks were not part of the equation.

Cheers,

bcg

[MrGiz]

Originally Posted by bluffcityguy

..... Such studies covered the entire spectrum of the profession from streetwalkers to high dollar hotties. Over the entire spectrum, the chances of arrest are quite high. Most likely, those chances are heavily influenced by the fact that ladies at the lower end of the spectrum (streetwalkers, strippers who regularly provide "takeout", and BP/CL girls) get arrested at higher rates than the higher class ladies. But still, it can happen to anyone, as some ladies on this very site can testify...

Your clarification does lend some credence to your theory.... but I can pretty much guarantee you that the percentage of discreet, organized, lower volume, upper-end girls who find themselves behind bars is much-much lower than "inevitable" !! In fact.... it is much-much lower than a majority.

Some ladies on this very site have learned a great deal since arriving.... and that's a good thing!!

Giz

[BIG C]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrGiz
Not really trying to be argumentative here....

In my experience, the words "I'm not [insert whatever speaker/writer is not being]" flag that the speaker/writer is being just that. However, you're entitled here to be argumentative, and well within your rights to ask:


Quote:
Originally Posted by MrGiz
but do you have any statistical data to support those opinions?

Originally Posted by bluffcityguy

Not at my fingertips. I think I might be able to dig them up if I had time to do so, but unfortunately I don't.

My recollection is that "inevitable arrest" is close to if not an exact quote from one of the studies I've read on the subject. Such studies covered the entire spectrum of the profession from streetwalkers to high dollar hotties. Over the entire spectrum, the chances of arrest are quite high. Most likely, those chances are heavily influenced by the fact that ladies at the lower end of the spectrum (streetwalkers, strippers who regularly provide "takeout", and BP/CL girls) get arrested at higher rates than the higher class ladies. But still, it can happen to anyone, as some ladies on this very site can testify...

Cheers,

bcg

Just for the record, I'd have to say that based on my years in the legal profession, and my position as a mod on a few escort sites, I would have to agree with bcg to a point.....I don't necessarily agree that it's "inevitable that the providers are going to get arrested if they stay in it long enough.....But, I do agree that if the cops have a hard-on for one of the ladies, and she doesn't either get the hell out of Dodge, or have someone watching her back, then I'd say her arrest will be "inevitable"......And, I also just want to say that because most of you guys aren't told about some provider getting arrested, that doesn't mean she hasn't been taken down to the local greybar hotel once or twice in their lives before.....I've been on both sides of the fence and have had ladies from the lifestyle come before me when I was a prosecutor, and have also had many more contact me as a defense attorney.....Many ladies are members of this and other boards (and no, I will NEVER reveal their identities either here or via backchannel so DON'T ASK ! ! ! ! !).....

So while I don't have any statistical data to back up my statements, I do have many years in the legal profession, with the overwhelming majority of those years being in the area of criminal law, both prosecution and defense, and I can state that bcg's statement are probably as close to being accurate as one can get.....

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.....

[MrGiz]

Originally Posted by BIG C

...... But, I do agree that if the cops have a hard-on for one of the ladies, and she doesn't either get the hell out of Dodge, or have someone watching her back, then I'd say her arrest will be "inevitable"......

Again.... if you want to continually narrow down the qualifications for the statement.... well, of course, you'll get closer to having the statement being accurate. I maintain that the majority of the girls who I am calling discreet, organized, and not greedy; do not fit the criteria of the profile ya'll are trying to present.

Giz

[BIG C]

Like I said, you'd be amazed at how many have been arrested.....

[Lily Blair]

Giz, u crack me up more and more every single day.

[MrGiz]

Originally Posted by Blond_Lily

Giz, u crack me up more and more every single day.

Thanks.... we are all experts, here.... right?