Welcome to ECCIE, become a part of the fastest growing adult community. Take a minute & sign up!

Welcome to ECCIE - Sign up today!

Become a part of one of the fastest growing adult communities online. We have something for you, whether you’re a male member seeking out new friends or a new lady on the scene looking to take advantage of our many opportunities to network, make new friends, or connect with people. Join today & take part in lively discussions, take advantage of all the great features that attract hundreds of new daily members!

Go Premium

Go Back   ECCIE Worldwide > General Interest > The Sandbox - National
test
The Sandbox - National The Sandbox is a collection of off-topic discussions. Humorous threads, Sports talk, and a wide variety of other topics can be found here.

Most Favorited Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Most Liked Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Top Reviewers
cockalatte 645
MoneyManMatt 490
Still Looking 399
samcruz 399
Jon Bon 389
Harley Diablo 375
honest_abe 362
DFW_Ladies_Man 313
Chung Tran 288
lupegarland 287
nicemusic 285
You&Me 281
Starscream66 273
George Spelvin 260
sharkman29 255
Top Posters
DallasRain70672
biomed162316
Yssup Rider60189
gman4453215
LexusLover51038
offshoredrilling48375
WTF48267
pyramider46370
bambino41213
CryptKicker37175
Mokoa36491
Chung Tran36100
Still Looking35944
The_Waco_Kid35624
Mojojo33117

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-19-2012, 12:34 AM   #1
dilbert firestorm
Premium Access
 
dilbert firestorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 9, 2010
Location: Nuclear Wasteland BBS, New Orleans, LA, USA
Posts: 31,921
Encounters: 4
Default how quantitive easing helps the rich and soaks the rest of us

http://reason.com/archives/2012/09/13/occupy-the-fed
dilbert firestorm is offline   Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 02:39 AM   #2
SEE3772
Valued Poster
 
SEE3772's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 14, 2011
Location: Key Largo
Posts: 1,384
Encounters: 7
Default

I was up trading , always at odd hours of the day and night.
Soooo...
The FED is buying Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS).
OK... so what does that mean?
I'm going to give a simple explanation.
What's going to happen is the FED will end up owning most of the homes in America.
40 to 1 (sometimes higher) leverage ratio in dollars on MBS, a derivative.
The artificial Zero Percent Interest Rate Policy (ZIRP). The FED will eventually have no choice but to raise interest rates to where they should be, in the near future.
The dollar devaluation that was already accruing. As the inflation rate keeps rising, eventually most people won't have enough dollars (purchasing power from devalued dollars) to pay their Mortgage, kinda like 2008 but it will be much worse. When will all this take place? Remember in 1997 Clinton dismantled the Glass Steagall Act allowing the commercial and investment banks to become one, once again. That's when the whole scam started. MBS, NINJA Loans, No Income No Job No Assets. Adjustable Rates, then the MBS were maxed out, Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) of 2008. But, the next day the 2008 TIME Magazine Person of the Year Henry Paulson changed his mind. Remember he said the money was not going towards the bad loans, and well yall know the rest, hopefully. While 90 plus percent of the American people were against TARP... everyone thought our elected officials were finally listening! The nays have it!
Senate , WTF...
But, after the congress was threatened with Martial Law in America, TARP passed. Bloomberg - TARP May Reach $23.7 Trillion

I know how financial criminals think.
In my past life, not long ago I worked with some.
SEE3772 is offline   Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 06:05 AM   #3
I B Hankering
Valued Poster
 
I B Hankering's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: South of Chicago
Posts: 31,214
Encounters: 9
Default

Bernanke needs to go.
I B Hankering is offline   Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 08:53 AM   #4
IIFFOFRDB
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jun 19, 2011
Location: Dixie Land
Posts: 22,098
Default

The bubble has popped to the surface.
IIFFOFRDB is offline   Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 09:30 AM   #5
LovingKayla
Upgraded Female Account
 
LovingKayla's Avatar
 
User ID: 50897
Join Date: Oct 22, 2010
Location: Dallas
Posts: 3,035
My ECCIE Reviews
Default

You can always tell when you post something the other side can't argue with (both sides.)

Those facts get us every time. And these facts are better than most facts because you literally can't argue with one single word.

Randyforcandy, can you argue with this thread? I'd sure be happy to listen, and I'd sure hope you were right. Anyone? Please?
LovingKayla is offline   Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 10:55 AM   #6
CuteOldGuy
Valued Poster
 
CuteOldGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 20, 2010
Location: Wichita
Posts: 28,730
Encounters: 20
Default

They are ALWAYS going to help the rich, even when they pretend they aren't. They are wholly owned subsidiaries of Wall Street and the Defense industry.
CuteOldGuy is offline   Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 12:07 PM   #7
Texas Contrarian
Lifetime Premium Access
 
Join Date: Mar 29, 2009
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 3,317
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LovingKayla View Post
You can always tell when you post something the other side can't argue with (both sides.)
Kayla, virtually no conservative or libertarian-leaning individuals are in favor of large quantities of QE -- but even most on the left express clear reservations, if not outright opposition.

About the only well-known zealous proponent of massive QE is Paul Krugman, and almost no one in the financial world takes him seriously. Famous economist Joseph Stiglitz is about as far to the left as you can get without actually being named Paul Krugman, but he has been voicing opinions in opposition to QE for two or three years now.

One of the key reasons for this is that large doses of QE clearly increase income and wealth disparity, and the transmission method by which this happens is fairly obvious and easy to understand.

It's been said that one of the putative reasons for additional QE is that it may give a psychological "boost" to the economy. However, that may backfire, since statements that the Fed intends to continue ZIRP and QE virtually forever suggest that policymakers are in full-on panic mode.

Another thing that I think needs to be pointed out is that even when the Fed is not overtly doing QE, the financial sector is engaging in what we call "financial repression."

Here's an interesting short article from last year:

http://www.economist.com/node/188342...ry_id=18834259

Since the Fed has guaranteed near-zero short rates (ZIRP) for at least three more years, the banking system can borrow at near zero percent in REPO and other overnight markets and use the proceeds to buy large quantities of such things as 10-year treasury notes. Since the U.S. government stands behind those assets, the only risk assumed by the banks is interest rate risk, and the too-big-to-fail banks all know they'll be backstopped by Treasury and the Fed if anything goes awry. This is called the "carry trade." People who think Dodd-Frank fixed much of anything are living in a fantasy world.

All of this helps profligate big spenders in congress finance our budget deficits, and gives banks the chance to fatten up bonus pools for top traders and executives to unprecedented proportions. That's a big reason why so many people in the financial services industry pocket 8-figure annual incomes while producing nothing of value to anyone else. Needless to say, they can afford the most expensive lobbyists known to man.

Many political decision makers, as well as those who finance their campaigns, benefit enormously from this type of crony capitalism, so don't expect anything to change any time soon.

(Note: Most of the above was excerpted from draft copies of stuff I wrote just within the last ten days.)
Texas Contrarian is online now   Quote
Reply



AMPReviews.net
Find Ladies
Hot Women

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright © 2009 - 2016, ECCIE Worldwide, All Rights Reserved