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09-14-2012, 02:39 PM
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New EPA Mandate: 4 Gallon Minimum of E15
The EPA is attempting to mandate that when you buy gasoline at a station that sells E15, you will have to buy a minimum of 4 gallons of E15.
With prices at the pump worrying Americans, Republicans have railed against the Environmental Protection Agency’s new gas mandate that requires consumers to buy at least four gallons when purchasing from stations with hoses containing 10 percent and 15 percent ethanol-blended fuel.
On Monday, Republicans on the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology sent a letter to Environmental Protection Agency Chief Administrator Lisa Jackson criticizing the agency’s approval of the sale of gasoline containing 15 volume percent ethanol.
Specifically, the EPA will require that consumers purchase a minimum of four gallons when buying from a gas station that sells gasoline containing 10 percent ethanol and 15 percent ethanol — also known as “E15″ — out of the same gas pump.
Gas stations may also have a dedicated hose for selling E15.
“The EPA has no business telling Americans how much fuel they must purchase,” the letter from Republican committee members Jim Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin and Chip Cravaack of Minnesota.
“Furthermore, EPA’s first-ever fuel purchase requirement appears to have been made outside the normal rulemaking process, seems antithetical to free markets, and highlights the flaws in the agency’s hasty decision to grant partial waivers for E15 prior to comprehensive scientific evaluation and assessment,” the congressmen continue.
The concern comes over a letter between the EPA and the American Motorcyclist Association regarding E15 waiver implementation.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/14/re...chase-mandate/
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09-14-2012, 03:34 PM
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Are there any just regular pumps?I heard e10 or more was in all gas now.
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09-14-2012, 03:38 PM
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Are there any just regular pumps?I heard e10 or more was in all gas now.
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plenty in rural areas here ... most lakes have marinas that sell ethanol free gas too ..
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09-14-2012, 05:39 PM
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Join Date: Jun 12, 2011
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Sounds like the Congress should withhold funding of the EPA. Except since there is no budget (thank you Harry Reid) Congress has no control over any budget. It is all executive decisions and continueing resolutions.
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09-15-2012, 08:25 PM
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EPA director Lisa Jackson is insane. this is what happens when you a environmental whacko in charge of energy policy.
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Automakers have heavily criticized the decision to introduce E15 fuel into the automobiles.
“Ford does not support the introduction of E15 into the marketplace for the legacy fleet. … Fuel not approved in the owner’s manual is considered misfueling and any damage resulting from misfueling is not covered by the warranty,” the Ford Motor Company said last year.
It has been reported that the American Petroleum Institute estimates that more than five million vehicles on the road could be harmed by E15 fuel.
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more on E15
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_..._fuel_mixtures
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09-15-2012, 08:31 PM
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In December 2010 several groups, including the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, the American Petroleum Institute, the Association of International Automobile Manufacturers, the National Marine Manufacturers Association, the Outdoor Power Equipment Institute, and the Grocery Manufacturers Association, filed suit against the EPA in the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. The plaintiffs argued that the EPA does not have the authority to issue a “partial waiver” that covers some cars and not others. Among other arguments, the groups argued that the higher ethanol blend is not only a problem for cars but also for fuel pumps and underground tanks not designed for that E15 mixture. It was also argued that the rise in ethanol has contributed to the big jump in corn prices in recent years.[62][63] In August 2012 the federal appeals court rejected the suit against the EPA. The case was thrown out on a technical reason as the court ruled that the groups did not have legal standing to challenge EPA's decision to issue the waiver for E15.[63][64]
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so, that's a shame that happened. so who has standing to sue the EPA?
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09-15-2012, 08:35 PM
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Join Date: Dec 30, 2009
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Are there any just regular pumps?I heard e10 or more was in all gas now.
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Most of the gas stations in OK have gas without the corn squeezings.
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09-15-2012, 08:46 PM
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more on the ruling
http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-...ontent-in-fuel
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The U.S. Appeals Court of the District of Columbia ruled gas retailers could offer E15 fuel — a 15 percent ethanol-to-traditional-fuel blend — for cars made in the 2001 model year or later if they follow a set of Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) guidelines. That means two-thirds of the vehicles on the road today can now use E15, said the Renewable Fuels Association (RFA), a biofuels industry group.
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09-15-2012, 08:51 PM
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