Allen West: Obama's 2nd Term Will Bring Pain and Misery

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by austxjr

McCain is an American hero.

Setting his politics aside, McCain is indeed an American hero. JMac certainly has my respect!

West? You've got to be kidding!

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by daty/o

Look, I'm all for the Republicans cleaning up their own mess, but Romney? Seriously? Was he the best you could do? And we all saw how well the last GOP administration did. Learn from your mistakes so that we don't have to keep paying for them. Romney/Ryan? I can't believe that even you guys really support that. Maybe that's why all we see on here are negative Obama posts; if you had someone to support, you would be doing that.

This could well be the best post we will see on here until the end of the year. It's almost certainly the best we will see until the post-election meltdown (for whichever side loses) runs it's course.

After most the posts the past couple weeks I'm almost (almost but not quite) nostalgic for some dumb Geo Zimmerman thread.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by austxjr

Hero - West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[12] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[11] LTC West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. This was for allowing his men to beat a detainee and for West discharging his firearm near the detainee's head. He narrowly avoided a court martial.

West was a vigilanti cowboy who had no place in a US uniform.

It amazes me that some of the RWWs think this is "heroic". Is this really what the Constitution is about? Is beating someone now seen as protected 1st amendment activity? West is and was a thug. He soiled the uniform that many good people--independent of party--wore with honor. What he did has no honor.

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by Old-T

West was a vigilanti cowboy who had no place in a US uniform.

It amazes me that some of the RWWs think this is "heroic". Is this really what the Constitution is about? Is beating someone now seen as protected 1st amendment activity? West is and was a thug. He soiled the uniform that many good people--independent of party--wore with honor. What he did has no honor.

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[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by Old-T

West was a vigilanti cowboy who had no place in a US uniform.

It amazes me that some of the RWWs think this is "heroic". Is this really what the Constitution is about? Is beating someone now seen as protected 1st amendment activity? West is and was a thug. He soiled the uniform that many good people--independent of party--wore with honor. What he did has no honor.

Take your socalist, druggy, anti-american, vote cheating idiots.

I will take Allen West. Wiki will not work....fuckers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_West_(politician)

[IIFFOFRDB]

Wiki sucks. i found something better. ohh yeaaa. http://www.therightscoop.com/mark-le...ican-soliders/

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by Old-T

West was a vigilanti cowboy who had no place in a US uniform.

It amazes me that some of the RWWs think this is "heroic". Is this really what the Constitution is about? Is beating someone now seen as protected 1st amendment activity? West is and was a thug. He soiled the uniform that many good people--independent of party--wore with honor. What he did has no honor.

Shove this up your Old Tranny Ass. http://www.pipelinenews.org/2012/may...li-Daqduq.html

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by austxjr

Hero - West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[12] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[11] LTC West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. This was for allowing his men to beat a detainee and for West discharging his firearm near the detainee's head. He narrowly avoided a court martial.

He seems like an OK guy other than his wack- job public statements and detachment from reality. YMMV

McCain is an American hero. Beating and shooting at an unarmed man, no matter how heinous, when he is in the custody of a large group isn't heroic in my book.

So which is it, did he discharge a firearm near the guy or did he shoot at him? You seem confused.

In fact West fired his gun beside the guy's head in order to get information that was necessary to save American lives. He knew his actions were a violation of the rules of engagement, so he offered his resignation. He gave up his career in order to save American lives. He is a hero in my book.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Shove this up your Old Tranny Ass. http://www.pipelinenews.org/2012/may...li-Daqduq.html

Typical. You can't really defend the RWW glorification of a thug so you toss up something else and yell, "Well, my guy isn't as bad as this guy".

Yep, your right about that. But your guy is still a thug, not a hero.

Folks like you do more harm to undermine the constitution than outsiders ever could.

[Little Stevie]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Allen West is an American hero.

Allen West is a traitor who broke the rules in Iraq and was pushed out of the military. He is lucky that some of his superiors thought that the war already had enough bad publicity and made a deal for him to quietly resign instead of going through a court martial. His continued exhibition of what is most likely bi-polar behavior has been evident with his recent verbal attack on Debbie Wasserman Schultz among others.


From Wikipedia:

Iraq interrogation incident

While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a reported plot to ambush him and his men.[11] The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, a civilian Iraqi police officer.[11] West, who was not responsible for conducting interrogations in Iraq and had never conducted nor witnessed one, had his men detain Hamoodi.[11] In the process of detaining Mr. Hamoodi, soldiers testified that Hamoodi appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[11] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 2/20th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[12] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[11] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[11] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[11] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[11]
West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[12] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[11] LTC West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004.

You don't accept a "settlement" and a discharge if you're innocent.