Romney Takes 14 Point Lead in Florida

[CuteOldGuy]

A good politician (and I realize that is an oxymoron), er, let's say an effective politician will ignore all the polls showing him/her in the lead. Remember President Dewey?

I think these public polls serve only to spark these kinds of debates, and drive people to their websites, newspapers and TV programs, so they can charge higher advertising rates. The candidates have their own internal polls that guide them. If they pay attention to these, they are fools.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by Doove

Seems you left out the caveat "unless it shows Romney ahead".

What a dingbat.

The only polls that show Obama with a significant lead are unreliable registered voter polls, usually with hugely oversampled Democrat sample groups.

Almost all the LIKELY VOTER polls, I've seen, either have Romney ahead or within margin of error. When you take into account, that none of the polls factor in 80% of the undecided votes going to the challenger, things are looking good for Romney-Ryan.

[CJ7]

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[Doove]

You contradict yourself.

You're a fool.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by Doove

You contradict yourself.

You're a fool.

So, you're saying, CJ's a fool? No kidding!

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

It's an indication of a trend. Florida is a swing state with 29 Electoral College votes. Winning Florida is vital for Romney. It's very good news for the Republicans; I think you probably realize that, unless you're incredibly stupid.

What trend? That more and more trash polls will pop up before the election? I agree.

If this were true is it good for republicans? I'd say so.

Who would believe a single poll that shows an incredible % shift that no other reputable pollster has seen anything remotely approaching this % shift?

Someone who is incredibly stupid.

[TexTushHog]

Never heard of 'em. And look at the cross tabs of the poll. It has only 1.3% of respondents 30 and under. Just a tad over 9% under 50. Florida skews old, but not that old. See p. 9.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/103331632/...9l2b6szas5ioh5

I also don't like the methodology of the poll. Too much like a push poll. The ask loaded issue questions before they ask the horse race question.


Here are the real polls there and Rassmussen.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/...omney-vs-obama

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...bama-1883.html

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

Never heard of 'em. And look at the cross tabs of the poll. It has only 1.3% of respondents 30 and under. Just a tad over 9% under 50. Florida skews old, but not that old. See p. 9.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/103331632/...9l2b6szas5ioh5

I also don't like the methodology of the poll. Too much like a push poll. The ask loaded issue questions before they ask the horse race question.


Here are the real polls there and Rassmussen.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/...omney-vs-obama

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...bama-1883.html

If the poll oversampled old people, as you say, that may actually be even better news for Romney.

The great fear for Romney was that the Democrats would succeed in scaring retired people into belieiving he was going to take away their Medicare. It appears that the retirees understand that their Medicare benefits are protected under Romney's proposed changes.

It's starting to look like Romney's proposed changes in Medicare may actually work to his benefit with retirees. That's a nightmare for Obama.