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Old 08-19-2012, 11:53 PM   #16
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From a guy's perspective, each of us have our own comfort zone in what we are willing to pay. A lot of factors go into this equation-- age, looks, services offered, reputation, reviews, attitude, performance, marketing etc. Guys operate on the demand side of this equation. If we don't provide the demand. you won't be getting paid. On the flip side, you gals offer the supply. If the supply is not there, we won't be paying. The two will eventually find an equilibrium. Also worth noting is the there are subsets to each segment. For example, some guys are looking for the lower end girl. Maybe they don't have as much money or maybe they just want the ability to play more often. If you are a $$$$ girl and a guy is a $.5 type client, the two are likely not to meet, but if 90% of the guys are the $.5 type, you are probably working in the wrong location. As this leads up to my next point, contrary to what has been said, local market conditions should be one of your top considerations when setting a price structure. You have to know the local market. I've seen and experienced it. Many a time a girl will have high expectations and wanting top $$$. Then a few days later, you see the same girl offering specials or a new price structure. Just like gas in California is much more expensive than gas in Texas. It is market driven. BTW, price fixing in any industry never works. There will always be someone willing to fill the void and offer services at a lower rate.
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:56 AM   #17
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Complete board mentality.

Cpalmson, I'm glad your perspective is not what a lady needs to consider to get into this industry. All you know is what you and the FEW men on this board that are vocal about what you're willing to pay say. But in essence, men will pay for what they want WHEN they want to. And half of the men on this board never voice an opinion because of that, and the ones that do are just exceptional because they don't give a care what you think about what they pay. When a man sees what he wants, and has the opportunity to pay for it, he will. That's all that matters. The demand is going to be there regardless.

Becoming a part of the rat race is just not for every lady. It's best to let women think for herself in this industry. You don't walk in Jos.A Bank telling them how cheap the suits are at Men's Warehouse, and how 90% of the men in the market for suits can't spend that kind of money, do you? And if you did, do you think they'd listen to you? No, they focus on who CAN buy their suits.

Those that understand this is a LUXURY market, and market themselves, carry themselves, and price themselves accordingly are having the best time at this. They attract men that understand what they want. Either you're buying or window shopping.
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:12 AM   #18
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^ ^ ^ The smartest girl Ive ever seen on Eccie...well said Ms Tiff
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:34 AM   #19
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Shoot - thats too much math for me ... JK

But seriously, those handbooks are all fine and dandy, but get your knowledge from experience as well. Starting out in this hobby in this day and age, and at our age (90's babies), we are use to researching, looking up on the net, etc for info. In this hobby/world, you'll learn there is nothing like experience. Experience in this field, like any, will allow your rates to raise as well because you will have an increase in skills.

Good luck!
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:05 AM   #20
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^ ^ ^ The smartest girl Ive ever seen on Eccie...well said Ms Tiff
+1 SNL. VERY well said, Tiff.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:52 AM   #21
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Supply and demand keeps getting trashed in these discussions. The problem, though, is not that supply and demand is invalid economics. It's that: (a) its application often is subject to many simplifying assumptions or caveats; and (b) you can't hope to apply it effectively until you carefully define the applicable market/service.

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Also worth noting is the there are subsets to each segment.
Exactly. For some buyers, there may only be a few broad segments to the market. Within a particular segment, they may have a choice of hundreds of ladies and not care that much which one they see. And other buyers will recognize many more, narrowly defined segments -- (almost?) to the point where each lady is a single market segment for those buyers.

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You have to know the local market.
Unfortunately, that is very difficult to do for a new lady. She might be able to get a sense of the supply side of the market -- what other ladies are in the market and how well they seem to be doing. Even that will be guesswork to a significant degree. And getting a sense of the demand side of the market is much more difficult, other than indirectly through anecdotal information about the relative success of local ladies within various different niches. (Members who post a lot of P4P boards are not necessarily a representative sample.) There's too much of the demand side of the market that is underground, even on a board like this. Even more guesswork or trial-and-error.

Some ladies want to be WalMart, and that's OK. Some ladies want to be Dillards, and that's OK too. Some ladies want to be Neiman Marcus, and that's OK too. But once they select a particular market niche, yes, supply and demand apply within that niche. There are plenty of customers in Dallas able and willing to pay Neiman Marcus prices, but they won't pay the same prices at WalMart until WalMart offers the same items and shopping experience. And some might stop going to Neiman Marcus if the prices doubled. And Neiman Marcus might not be successful with a store in Tyler, Texas. Not all ladies who want to be Neiman Marcus will be able to.

I don't have a clue about the local market and how a lady should market/price her services. But I am fairly confident about two things: (1) supply and demand is completely valid economics; (2) but not very useful for a lady in deciding what rates to charge in P4P.

So, can we just drop the references to supply-and-demand, whether asserting it as an iron law of economics or discounting it as irrelevant?

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Old 08-20-2012, 06:24 PM   #22
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Money aside... I'd bang her! IJS
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:51 PM   #23
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But would you give her a t-shirt?
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:38 PM   #24
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Damn !!! they making that kind of dough ??? i'm on the wrong side of the hobby !

Kidding aside i only spend what i budget myself to spend not a penny more . Am i cheap ..i dont think so i just treat this as another hobby which i have many that required a budget . I'm a Walmart shopper ...good service at a good price kind of guy . I'm not a Dollar Tree shopper or a Gucci customer . Charge what you want .... they will see you ...if they want .
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It could be worse....u could have to pay taxes.
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Old 08-21-2012, 05:24 AM   #26
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It could be worse....u could have to pay taxes.
Most the smart ones do.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:39 AM   #27
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It could be worse....u could have to pay taxes.
The smart ones do.... great minds think alike Old-T!

Speaking of smart! SnL and Elle, I'm just trying to hang with y'all!
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