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Old 08-08-2012, 07:56 AM   #1
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Laugh and joke if you want. Just read.

From the article:

Reuters reports this week that the government believes they are justified to have the authorization to lock alleged belligerents up indefinitely because cases involving militants directly aligned against the good of the US government warrants such punishment. Separate from Judge Forrest’s injunction, nine states have attempted to, at least in part, remove themselves from the indefinite detention provisions of included in the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, or NDAA.


This is a free country? How is this policy any different from, say, Assad's in Syria?

Wake up, people. Pull your heads out of your asses.

http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-indefin...n-forrest-070/

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Old 08-08-2012, 11:04 AM   #2
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You really don't think this is important. No wonder the country is falling apart. Let the government do whatever they want. As long as I've got my football, beer, or Kardashian show, it's ok with me.

To quote my friend, fuckem!
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:25 AM   #3
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Dear COF,

Everyone is sick listening to you yammer the same NDAA shit day in day out. Talk to your cat about it.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:29 AM   #4
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Just for the record, then, CBJ7, it's fine with you that the government can arrest you, detain you indefinitely, refuse to give you a lawyer or answer any questions about your detainment, until they decide, if ever, to release you. Is that correct?

Then answer my question. How does this policy differ from Assad's in Syria?

You (metaphorically) are why this country is becoming a police state, and no longer free.
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:30 AM   #5
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People are sheeple. They actually think it's ok. We're getting tough on terrorists or din't cha know.

But we must always remember and be ever vigilant because:

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:33 AM   #6
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Excellent point, Olivia. Thank you.
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:36 AM   #7
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Sad, but that's just the way it is. When everybody's "satisfied" and no one's "hungry" apathy fills the void.
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:10 PM   #8
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If there was ANY validity to this story, the MSM would be all over it. So I guess it's not important that the Obama administration is appealing the injunction preventing them from indefinitely detaining American citizens on American soil without due process of law to the Court of Appeals.

Nope. Not important.

Who was eliminated on Dancing with the Stars? Important.

Indefinite detention of Americans w/o due process? Unimportant.

And you people trust the MSM. No wonder we're in trouble.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:10 AM   #9
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Eugene V. Debs was a socialist who ran for president of the United States from a prison cell. Convict 9653's crime was that he spoke out in Ohio that maybe a military draft was a bad idea. He did not call for rebellion, he did not call for draftees to desert, he did not call for civilians to avoid the draft, but he did question whether or not the draft was necessary and constitutional. For this he recieved ten years in prison which, like so many socialists, he served in Missouri.

This was all declared constitutional by the US Supreme Court under the Espionage Act of 1917. Parts of that act are still in effect. That act said any opposition to the military, the US government, and/or the president was treason.
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