Once Again the GOP Sets the Oppressed Free

[Iaintliein]

Unions; so great they have to be forced onto employees.

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=136548

Somebody broke the Thugs' rice bowl.

[Whirlaway]

Can't let the GOP take credit for the heavy lifting that was done by the TEA PARTY !

The GOP is the beneficiary, the TEA PARTY was the muscle.

[nevergaveitathought]

all these union demonstrations and marches and protests are really against the american people and the beleaguered taxpayer. it is YOU who is at fault, You who is being harrassed, You who they wish to enslave.

the June 5th date may go down in freedom annals as did June Teenth.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by Iaintliein

Unions; so great they have to be forced onto employees.

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=136548

Somebody broke the Thugs' rice bowl.

No wonder they failed. No has talked about this. Sounds like 2/3rds of the members did not even want to be members of those unions. Ohhh woes me, democracy has failed...LOL

[i'va biggen]

you guys need to check back in history,before unions and see what working conditions were like then. Yes some of them gained too much power.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by ekim008

you guys need to check back in history,before unions and see what working conditions were like then. Yes some of them gained too much power.

i'm not much on private sector unionism. for there are changes that need to be done in union states such as the requirement to pay dues, member or no member; the union hiring halls in construction where the supply of labor is controlled by the unions and where they have "pre-hire" agreements; in the entertainment industry any union member is prohibited from working on non-union projects; union shops where an employee of a private business can be fired for not paying union dues

but the whole issue in wisconsin and the discussions on this board revolved around PUBLIC sector unions, not merely unions.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

i'm not much on private sector unionism. for there are changes that need to be done in union states such as the requirement to pay dues, member or no member; the union hiring halls in construction where the supply of labor is controlled by the unions and where they have "pre-hire" agreements; in the entertainment industry any union member is prohibited from working on non-union projects; union shops where an employee of a private business can be fired for not paying union dues

but the whole issue in wisconsin and the discussions on this board revolved around PUBLIC sector unions, not merely unions.

You're exactly right. There are all sorts of abuses in private sector unions, but public sector unions are far worse. The public sector unions collect dues, against the will of the members, and give essentially all the money to Democrat politicians, and in return, receive raises in pay and benefits. It's a complete conflict of interests. The unions and the Democrat politicians benefit from the arrangement and the tax payers get screwed. The arrangement results in Democrat politicians being allowed to finance their campains with tax payer money.

Imagine if the UAW gave their union dues directly to the board members of GM. It would be in the best interest of the board members to raise union pay and benefits because that would enable the union to give them even more money in contributions. The union would benefit; the board members would benefit and the shareholders would get screwed.

[Texas Contrarian]

FDR is, of course, one of the most iconic figures in the history of progressivism. As everyone knows, he strongly championed private sector unions.

But for the very reasons listed above, he staunchy opposed the idea of public sector unionization.

It should now be obvious to everyone that he was right. If you think the current situation in Wisconsin is bad, just take a look at the dire fiscal outlook for California (and a number of its cities).