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CuteOldGuy · 05-14-2012, 03:53 PM

Clinton was able to see where the country was going, and adjusted. He worked with the Congress, and the results are history. After his defeat in 2010, Obama has simply become firmer in his resolve to institute a socialist system. There is no working with him. He needs to be replaced.

4karlos · 05-14-2012, 06:14 PM

Question to the ones complaining about Obama: Would you rather have your 401k rolled back to where it was during G.W. Bush last week in Office?

if you do not remember...(DJI) was bellow the 8,000 mark. Means today your savings are probably worth about 50% more than what they did when Bush left office.

I actually don't give a $ about politicians...so spare me the ideologist rebutal

4karlos · 05-14-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Clinton was able to see where the country was going, and adjusted. He worked with the Congress, and the results are history. After his defeat in 2010, Obama has simply become firmer in his resolve to institute a socialist system. There is no working with him. He needs to be replaced.

Take a look at France...You will see that they won't nationalize their cars and businesses and savings. They won't force people to work for the governement. They won't seize people assets. I am European and I lived in a country where we had a Socialist governement for 8 years. None of the BS I hear about socialism ever happened in that country. I always suggest to the opinated people about foreign countries....to travel a little bit and visit a bit more than airports, resorts and meuseums. Get an immersion to the culture and social live of the country you're visiting. After a few continents and countries your views about the world, politics and human evolution will probably be quite changed. You might even become flexible in yout views and opinions.

4karlos · 05-15-2012, 07:57 AM

I am just going to guess that no one is interested in rolling back their 401k to where it was when G.W. Bush left office huh?

Texas Contrarian · 05-15-2012, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 4karlos

Question to the ones complaining about Obama: Would you rather have your 401k rolled back to where it was during G.W. Bush last week in Office?

if you do not remember...(DJI) was bellow the 8,000 mark. Means today your savings are probably worth about 50% more than what they did when Bush left office.

I actually don't give a $ about politicians...so spare me the ideologist rebutal

Are you seriously going to try to claim that Obama's economic policies should be credited with the retracement of most of the steep plunge suffered in late 2008 and early 2009? Markets have always rebounded briskly following sharp plunges. The "recovery" since midyear 2009, when the NBER called the end of the recession, has been the weakest since the 1930s. We needed a robust economic recovery agenda in 2009, but instead we got a political payoffs and entitlement expansion agenda.

The fact that we have had such a sluggish rate of economic growth and job creation should surprise no one. Bad economic policy tends to produce such outcomes.

Guest050715-1 · 05-15-2012, 09:10 AM

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It's too bad the dumb ass didn't understand that before he ran for King of the World. All those empty promises would have been a little more thought out, maybe. Now, you're gonna blame the media and political analysts for his failures? GTFO!!!!

Ya think? He was the Anointed One and ring leader for the Greatest Show on Earth. He sold a gigantic, empty shit sandwich to the electorate and the world. Remember the Nobel Peace Prize for not being George Bush II?

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Well remember he wanted hope and change.Think it wasn't well thought out the opposition he would receive.

Opposition to what?!? He never did or said anything but Hope and Change. What does that even mean. Doing nothing, as he’s demonstrated he can do in spades, is a decision in and of itself. He made the decision to ram a new tax on the poor for health insurance and to send the SEALs after Bin Laden.

He also made a decision to sign NDAA 2012 now we have check points on our streets by the TSA and random checks on METRO buses by the po-po and the TSA. Ya, he’s a winner. Taxing the poor and killing Liberty along with Bin Laden.

satexasguy · 05-15-2012, 09:19 AM

How funny. Liberals still can't see what the rest of the world sees. They keep making excuses for him and blaming Bush.

Guest050715-1 · 05-15-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 4karlos

I am just going to guess that no one is interested in rolling back their 401k to where it was when G.W. Bush left office huh?

No, but I'd be willing to roll it back to the Clinton years. Of course, at the end of the Clinton administration, I sold my half of our stock portfolio and bought gold. Now THAT was a good move.

i'va biggen · 05-15-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

Ya think? He was the Anointed One and ring leader for the Greatest Show on Earth. He sold a gigantic, empty shit sandwich to the electorate and the world. Remember the Nobel Peace Prize for not being George Bush II?

Opposition to what?!? He never did or said anything but Hope and Change. What does that even mean. Doing nothing, as he’s demonstrated he can do in spades, is a decision in and of itself. He made the decision to ram a new tax on the poor for health insurance and to send the SEALs after Bin Laden.

He also made a decision to sign NDAA 2012 now we have check points on our streets by the TSA and random checks on METRO buses by the po-po and the TSA. Ya, he’s a winner. Taxing the poor and killing Liberty along with Bin Laden.

as much hate as you have for the president of the USA could you be defined as a terrorist??

CuteOldGuy · 05-15-2012, 11:27 AM

Yup, Ekim. That's how they will define it. If you disagree, you must hate. If you hate, you must be a terrorist. If you are a terrorist, you must be confined without trial or habeas corpus.

That's EXACTLY how it will play out. Now, what happens if we have a president YOU disagree with, Ekim? Guess.

4karlos · 05-16-2012, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMidnight

Are you seriously going to try to claim that Obama's economic policies should be credited with the retracement of most of the steep plunge suffered in late 2008 and early 2009? Markets have always rebounded briskly following sharp plunges. The "recovery" since midyear 2009, when the NBER called the end of the recession, has been the weakest since the 1930s. We needed a robust economic recovery agenda in 2009, but instead we got a political payoffs and entitlement expansion agenda.

The fact that we have had such a sluggish rate of economic growth and job creation should surprise no one. Bad economic policy tends to produce such outcomes.

What are you, 12?

Seedy · 05-16-2012, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 4karlos

What are you, 12?

Probably not, but you are...

4karlos · 05-16-2012, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by seedman55

Probably not, but you are...

I see you're the Captains's bitch. You're taking care of his messages. Does he make you wear a skirt?

Texas Contrarian · 05-16-2012, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 4karlos

What are you, 12?

Nope, pretty poor guess.

Apparently you're no better at guessing people's ages that you are at understanding what's going on in the world.

Why don't you tell us what Obama has done that boosted the wealth of our nation relative to what it would be if he'd done very little, and thereby will create equity market value? Please be specific.

You can't, so I doubt that you'll even try.

i'va biggen · 05-16-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Yup, Ekim. That's how they will define it. If you disagree, you must hate. If you hate, you must be a terrorist. If you are a terrorist, you must be confined without trial or habeas corpus.

That's EXACTLY how it will play out. Now, what happens if we have a president YOU disagree with, Ekim? Guess.

Is a difference between hate and disagreement