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03-29-2012, 09:52 AM
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Do Liberals have growths on their ears and eyes that make it so they can't see or hear all the answers to these questions that have been posted repeatedly?
The 1% DOES NOT GIVE A FUCK IF YOU RAISE THEIR TAXES. They will never know the difference. They have said often, " go for it, I'll never be able to tell you did it and I"m all about helping the little guy. OH but I forgot to mention, the current tax code has a billion loop holes I can swing through and avoid all of this. I pay people to pay people to take care of this for me."
It's when you get into the 250k-500k a year guys that there is a problem. Do you have ANY IDEA how fucking hard it is to make 250k a year in a small business? If you tax those guys 20-40% it will kill job growth and small business. A flat tax on every damn body tax is the ONLY answer. That way, you get the hookers, drug dealers, super rich, poor and even the dogies. No one would escape the tax man. That tax would hit me pretty hard but it's fair so I don't mind.
250k a year is so much less than it sounds. With my small business's I pay out about 60% to contract labor, and overhead. In one of them I'm upside down right now, but it looks like I'm making money hand over fist. The appearance of deep pockets is an illusion.
My family wealth is only one generation deep. It's taken my father a life time to get where he is and he took every single inch one at a time. He was even bankrupt at 40 after divorce, etc. We have the appearance of deep pockets to someone that only has a net worth of say 50k or so. We are the heart of America. We are the ones you are trying to redistribute from. F U C K Y O U. We worked our asses off for what we have and the democrats want to take it away to make things more fair. Plah ease.
A death tax starting at 250k? wtf?
You all talk about wanting to tax the rich but all I hear are numbers around 250k. That is NOT rich. Anyone that thinks otherwise, come sit by me for a while.
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03-29-2012, 09:56 AM
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Amazing how Congress has been cutting the budget for over 30 years and we still spend more money each year than we did the year before. Until they get rid of baseline budgeting, we won't know what is actually being cut.
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03-29-2012, 11:44 AM
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I misspoke. I spend right at 50% on overhead and contract labor.
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03-29-2012, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LovingKayla
Do Liberals have growths on their ears and eyes that make it so they can't see or hear all the answers to these questions that have been posted repeatedly?
The 1% DOES NOT GIVE A FUCK IF YOU RAISE THEIR TAXES. They will never know the difference. They have said often, " go for it, I'll never be able to tell you did it and I"m all about helping the little guy. OH but I forgot to mention, the current tax code has a billion loop holes I can swing through and avoid all of this. I pay people to pay people to take care of this for me."
It's when you get into the 250k-500k a year guys that there is a problem. Do you have ANY IDEA how fucking hard it is to make 250k a year in a small business? If you tax those guys 20-40% it will kill job growth and small business. A flat tax on every damn body tax is the ONLY answer. That way, you get the hookers, drug dealers, super rich, poor and even the dogies. No one would escape the tax man. That tax would hit me pretty hard but it's fair so I don't mind.
250k a year is so much less than it sounds. With my small business's I pay out about 60% to contract labor, and overhead. In one of them I'm upside down right now, but it looks like I'm making money hand over fist. The appearance of deep pockets is an illusion.
My family wealth is only one generation deep. It's taken my father a life time to get where he is and he took every single inch one at a time. He was even bankrupt at 40 after divorce, etc. We have the appearance of deep pockets to someone that only has a net worth of say 50k or so. We are the heart of America. We are the ones you are trying to redistribute from. F U C K Y O U. We worked our asses off for what we have and the democrats want to take it away to make things more fair. Plah ease.
A death tax starting at 250k? wtf?
You all talk about wanting to tax the rich but all I hear are numbers around 250k. That is NOT rich. Anyone that thinks otherwise, come sit by me for a while.
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I do agree with you that 250IK doesn't make you real rich, especially here in Southern California, but don't forget that it is still 16.5 times more than minimum wage and those people also have to live from what they make.
(Although I can't imagine how they do it).
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03-29-2012, 02:01 PM
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sigh~
a flat tax doesnt generate enough revenue to support the country unless you get up in higher percentage rates ...
tax a couple making $25K a year 30%
tax a couple making $2.5 million a year %30
couple #1 lives on bread and water compared.
the flat tax has been tried in small countries that have much smaller governments than we do, and they couldnt pay their bills. Flat tax looks good on paper, until you see how much we need to just survive, much less grow.
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03-29-2012, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ7
sigh~
a flat tax doesnt generate enough revenue to support the country unless you get up in higher percentage rates ...
tax a couple making $25K a year 30%
tax a couple making $2.5 million a year %30
couple #1 lives on bread and water compared.
the flat tax has been tried in small countries that have much smaller governments than we do, and they couldnt pay their bills. Flat tax looks good on paper, until you see how much we need to just survive, much less grow.
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And then you don't even mention Earned Income Credit
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03-29-2012, 02:30 PM
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I didnt mention what percentage rate per individual it would take to support our military either ..
lets see, $12 billion a month in the mid east for 11 years =
damn a calculator doesnt go that high
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03-29-2012, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ7
sigh~
a flat tax doesnt generate enough revenue to support the country unless you get up in higher percentage rates ...
tax a couple making $25K a year 30%
tax a couple making $2.5 million a year %30
couple #1 lives on bread and water compared.
the flat tax has been tried in small countries that have much smaller governments than we do, and they couldnt pay their bills. Flat tax looks good on paper, until you see how much we need to just survive, much less grow.
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And just how well is that income tax working at meeting our budget needs?
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04-01-2012, 10:17 AM
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House Republicans did this once before, look at the results.
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