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Old 03-30-2012, 12:08 PM   #46
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Perfect, justify an unsustainable, unconstitutional government program by pointing out that we already have one. Good point, SS needs to be phased out as quickly as possible, it was never anything but a vote buying scam by FDR.

Unsustainable? LMAO! Unsustainable only if the corporations and gazillionaires are allowed to pay lower taxes than people making $35K per year and unsustainable only with a Teapublican dedication to military spending that is beyond foolish.

You are an IDIOT to assume that retirement and health care systems created by a super majority of the industrialized nations in the world cannot be established here and thrive.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:10 PM   #47
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This shouldn't be necessary but some people have their own problems. Health insurance versus car insurance.

Number one, not everyone drives and we don't force non-drivers to pay for auto insurance do we? We don't.
Yes but EVERYONE gets sick and EVERYONE dies. There's no non-drivers in this scenario.

And when people get sick/have accidents without insurance they go get FREE care and the rest of us pay. How is that okay? I don't pay insurance premiums and bills so someone can pretend they speak no English and get a free ride while my premiums and co-pays go up. How is that any better?
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:25 PM   #48
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[quote=Missy Mariposa;2353815]Yes but EVERYONE gets sick and EVERYONE dies. There's no non-drivers in this scenario.

And when people get sick/have accidents without insurance they go get FREE care and the rest of us pay. How is that okay? I don't pay insurance premiums and bills so someone can pretend they speak no English and get a free ride while my premiums and co-pays go up. How is that any better?[/quote

Mate, in reality they don't get a free ride. They have no bloody intention on "EVER" paying those hospital bills. All they are doing is racking up loads of personal debt. In other words they are in reality buggering themselves.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:59 PM   #49
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Yes they do get a free ride when they use a fake name or no habla igles.

And woo, debt. Big deal. If they don't pay it (which they won't), what in gods name does it matter? Lots of people have tens of thousands in debt they have no plans on paying. Ever. While I personally enjoy living debt free, some people just don't give a shit.

They're not buggering anyone except us honestly - I have a friend who owes 13k in COURT COSTS. Do you think he'll ever pay? No, it's been uh...10 years since his trial. They just send him letters every month and when they find his new number to call, he changes it. Think hospitals do anything more/less than the court system?
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