voter id laws - pros vs. cons

[timpage]

Voter fraud is a myth promulgated by the conservabots to suppress voting by the poor, the elderly and anybody else that they can fuck over who they know will vote Democrat. There's no factual support that it occurs with any degree of frequency that might ever affect an election. It's a non-issue scare tactic used by the GOP to gain a tactical advantage in elections by keeping the people that they know are going to vote against them from voting. Shameful.

[CuteOldGuy]

I'm not a Republican or a conservative, but I support voter ID laws. Tim, you simply repeat what has already been said here. Try to come up with something new, and something you haven't already heard on MSNBC.

[cptjohnstone]

Originally Posted by timpage

Voter fraud is a myth promulgated by the conservabots to suppress voting by the poor, the elderly and anybody else that they can fuck over who they know will vote Democrat. There's no factual support that it occurs with any degree of frequency that might ever affect an election. It's a non-issue scare tactic used by the GOP to gain a tactical advantage in elections by keeping the people that they know are going to vote against them from voting. Shameful.

I guess you are too young to remember 1960, the closest election at that time. Chicago and DuVal county Texas, google it

[CuteOldGuy]

Don't be too hard on Tim, he's a Democrat robot and can only say what he's been programmed to say. The DNC does his thinking for him.

I have an idea, Tim. If the plan is as diabolical as you say, organize a drive and a fund to get all those people voter IDs, then drive them to the polls and vote those wascally wepublicans out! Hell, I'll help you vote out Republicans. I won't help vote in Democrats, but I will help vote out Republicans.

[timpage]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I'm not a Republican or a conservative, but I support voter ID laws. Tim, you simply repeat what has already been said here. Try to come up with something new, and something you haven't already heard on MSNBC.

As opposed to your deeply intellectual comments on every issue that comes up COG? Which essentially consist of "I hate everybody and the world is coming to an end." Seems like you have anger issues that require counseling buddy.

[timpage]

Originally Posted by cptjohnstone

I guess you are too young to remember 1960, the closest election at that time. Chicago and DuVal county Texas, google it

Well, there you go then....an election that happened 50 years ago has suddenly mandated voter suppression laws. Where has the outrage been? How have we managed to elect thousands of public officials fairly without these voter suppression laws that are being proposed and passed? Fucking moron. Bullshit. It's a non-issue designed to suppress voters who traditionally vote for democrats. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

[dilbert firestorm]

I think you need to re think this.

http://blog.timesunion.com/crime/bal...s-today/10757/

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by timpage

Well, there you go then....an election that happened 50 years ago has suddenly mandated voter suppression laws. Where has the outrage been? How have we managed to elect thousands of public officials fairly without these voter suppression laws that are being proposed and passed? Fucking moron. Bullshit. It's a non-issue designed to suppress voters who traditionally vote for democrats. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

A dozen examples of recent cases of voter fraud have been cited in this thread. Your inability to read and understand them does not make them irrelevant. No, quite the opposite. They make your 'opinion' irrelevant.

[timpage]

Holy smoke....39 absentee ballots in a low-level local election. That certainly mandates a requirement that the millions of American citizens who might not possess a photo ID issued by the government not be allowed to vote in a national election. You re-think it.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by timpage

Holy smoke....39 absentee ballots in a low-level local election.

Just illustrates your inability to read: there were thousands of fraudulent votes cast in elections since 1999.

Originally Posted by timpage

That certainly mandates a requirement that the millions of American citizens who might not possess a photo ID issued by the government not be allowed to vote in a national election. You re-think it.

Lame argument, almost every U.S. citizen already has an ID. Your argument is seriously lame when Democrats now dictate every U.S. citizen will purchase health insurance (how will they know without IDs?), and now the Democrats propose every citizen will have an Internet ID.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by timpage

Holy smoke....39 absentee ballots in a low-level local election. That certainly mandates a requirement that the millions of American citizens who might not possess a photo ID issued by the government not be allowed to vote in a national election. You re-think it.

those are the ones that we know *OF*. these clowns in the article probably screwed something up and got caught.

vote fraud is very difficult to detect if done properly.

even the id card itself wouldn't stop vote fraud, it just makes vote fraud a bit harder to commit.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by timpage

As opposed to your deeply intellectual comments on every issue that comes up COG? Which essentially consist of "I hate everybody and the world is coming to an end." Seems like you have anger issues that require counseling buddy.

Where is it that I hate everybody? I intensely dislike Republicans and Democrats, but I don't hate them. And the world isn't coming to an end, but if the policies of the US government continue on the same track they are now, freedom will come to an end. We are almost there. If the NDAA is allowed to stand as is, the Constitution essentially becomes a placemat. Yeah, the loss of liberty bothers me.

But if you met me in person, I'm a very happy, laid back guy. This is about the only place I discuss politics outside my family. I do have a Gary Johnson for President sticker on my car. But I'm a nice guy. I'd even buy you a beer.