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Old 11-27-2011, 02:16 PM   #1
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Default The Shocking Truth about the Crackdown on Occupy

Here is a noteworthy article that kind of sums up my own inclination in opinion regarding the OWS movement:

"........But wait: why on earth would Congress advise violent militarised reactions against its own peaceful constituents? The answer is straightforward: in recent years, members of Congress have started entering the system as members of the middle class (or upper middle class) – but they are leaving DC privy to vast personal wealth, as we see from the "scandal" of presidential contender Newt Gingrich's having been paid $1.8m for a few hours' "consulting" to special interests. The inflated fees to lawmakers who turn lobbyists are common knowledge, but the notion that congressmen and women are legislating their own companies' profitsis less widely known – and if the books were to be opened, they would surely reveal corruption on a Wall Street spectrum. Indeed, we do already know that congresspeople are massively profiting from trading on non-public information they have on companies about which they are legislating – a form of insider trading that sent Martha Stewart to jail.

Since Occupy is heavily surveilled and infiltrated, it is likely that the DHS and police informers are aware, before Occupy itself is, what its emerging agenda is going to look like. If legislating away lobbyists' privileges to earn boundless fees once they are close to the legislative process, reforming the banks so they can't suck money out of fake derivatives products, and, most critically, opening the books on a system that allowed members of Congress to profit personally – and immensely – from their own legislation, are two beats away from the grasp of an electorally organised Occupy movement … well, you will call out the troops on stopping that advance......"

read the full article here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ackdown-occupy
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Old 11-27-2011, 03:08 PM   #2
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Douche baggery pays very well. If My conscious would only allow it. fucking morals .. sigh I could have been rich
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Old 11-27-2011, 03:20 PM   #3
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:43 PM   #4
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Excellent article and a damning commentary on "freedom of the press" and journalistic integrity in the US that a UK writer wrote it.

I've said that it was in fact William Jefferson Blythe who was at the heart of this entire mess. You may known him as Bill Clinton. That arrogant socialist ass was indeed the sitting President who did away with the Glass-Steagall Act and then had the unmitigated gall to claim he had no responsibility for how Wall Street then ran rampant with their new found freedom. This is the exact same thing that fostered the Great Depression. And the very reason the Glass-Steagall Act was enacted.

I've also said for years that lobbyists are at the heart of the corruption of the US political system. Also the rise of the profession politician, a term that the founding fathers would find abhorrent.

That said i do not support Occupy Wall Street. And i never will. Right issue, wrong people being blamed. Wall Street is only as greedy as politicians let them be. So until "Occupy Wall Street" becomes "Occupy Congress" they are not going to accomplish anything.

Also it is clearly an act of Treason committed by Obama to empower the DHS to act in coordination with local police forces in a de facto violation of Posse Comitatus. Oh, the DHS only advised the local authorities. Whatever.

And it was Bill Clinton, while undoing Glass-Steagall who also made blatantly unconstitutional attempts to essentially do away with the 2nd Amendment. This was to remove the power of the people to act against "all threats foreign and domestic". The founding fathers recognized the possibility of exactly what we have today. A corrupt political system acting against the best interests of the people. Without private gun ownership the people have no power to resist the corruption of Congress. Fortunately, this ability still exists. For now. Anyone realize that Obama is an advocate of gun control? Look at Chicago gun laws, some of the most restrictive in the nation, along with Washington D.C.

So "Occupy Wall Street" needs to become "Occupy Congress" and then we'll see how far this goes and how far the powers that be are willing to go to stop it but most importantly how far the citizens of the US are willing to go to restore this nation.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:40 PM   #5
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Default "Occupy Congress"???

I thought that was what the Tea Party was about. Change things through actually electing people who are willing to go to Washington and bring some fiscal responsibility to the entire bloated, corrupt system.
Of course, the people who denegrate the tea party, and look upon them as redneck baffoons, do this because the truth is, they do not want things to change.

Do you think for one minute that the followers of President Obama, who is a product of one of the most corrupt political systems in the Country, (Chicago), want change? Of course not, they just want to be in charge of the system.
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:52 PM   #6
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I thought that was what the Tea Party was about. Change things through actually electing people who are willing to go to Washington and bring some fiscal responsibility to the entire bloated, corrupt system.
YES!!!

The occupy wall street agenda supported these same corrupt idiots that are in congress who's actions they supposedly were against. At least the Tea Party recognized that it was the person elected and not the party that mattered. That is why we saw so many people contesting the primary elections.
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Old 11-27-2011, 09:24 PM   #7
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I thought that was what the Tea Party was about. Change things through actually electing people who are willing to go to Washington and bring some fiscal responsibility to the entire bloated, corrupt system.

The Tea party, while invoking the the spirit the revolutionary colonists, have not really accomplished anything. The reason is that with the current system of lobbyist money influencing the Tea Party's candidates inevitably succumb to greed. until the greed is taken away essentially every elected official falls under it's influence.

Most Senators and many congressmen are already wealthy. So why do they continue to take lobby money? Because they won't cut off their own gravytrain. Only the threat of a popular revolt will spur any real change at this point.

Do you think for one minute that the followers of President Obama, who is a product of one of the most corrupt political systems in the Country, (Chicago), want change? Of course not, they just want to be in charge of the system.
Of course Obama doesn't want to change anything. He never did. He's a black Richard Daley. Excuse me, he's a mulatto Richard Daley. Yep i called the Prez what he is. A mulatto who married a black women so he could "darken up" to the black vote.
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Old 11-28-2011, 10:05 AM   #8
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Nina good post this does not surprise and was very evident early on.
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