Waco Kid's College Football Week 12

[The_Waco_Kid]

What is Waco Kid's Weekly College Football Review? It is an ongoing weekly review of all things College Football!!

Each week upcoming games can be discussed and predictions made, name-calling after victories and general all-around college football discussion! Each week will be closed out by the next Monday and a new thread opened for the current college football schedule for each week.

Rules -

"Rules?? We don't need no stinkin’ rules!”

Actually we do.

WKWCFR rule 1

"Lies, damn lies and statistics!"

British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli

If you quote a stat, record, 3rd down conversion rate, an all-time mark or the number of jock straps an 85-man team needs ...

Post it! If you can't post a link to it, it's bogus!
What's valid in the Internet age? Just about anything! Any of the major sports publications, local newspapers, any of the big networks and official school and NCAA sites just to cover the big ones.

WKWCFR rule 2

Predictions must be posted 1 day in advance! If you haven't read the sports page and figgured out who's going to win by the day before ya never will!

Must be time stamped before Midnight the day before game-day, for any weekly games Thur-Sun on the current weekly schedule.

So there you have it, pretty basic! You can post on general topics of your favorite teams regardless of that week's opponent. Just remember WKWCFR rule 1

Polls

[The_Waco_Kid]

• Thursday, Nov 17
  
  
  • 22 Sthrn Miss
    
    
    UAB
    
    
    • 8:00pm ET

Winner: Southern Miss
No time to drop one to a lousy 2-8 UAB team.

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    UNC
    
    9 VA Tech
    
    
    • 8:00pm ET

Winner: Va Tech
Going all in with Beamerball.

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[cptjohnstone]

Thursday, Nov 17

22 Sthrn Miss


UAB

8:00pm ET
Winner: Southern Miss
No time to drop one to a lousy 2-8 UAB team.

another OSU success story, candyass how has your former ass't coaches done or how many are still employed?

[cptjohnstone]

from Rivals national board


HEISMAN HOPEFUL...INMATE # 29483904


What do you call a Sooner fan with no brothers or sisters?

A Virgin

You're a sooner fan when your home has more miles than your car.

What do a tornado and a sooner divorce have in common?

They both mean someone's about to lose a trailer.

how do tell the difference between a pair of OSU boots and a pair of ou boots?

on the OSU boots, the shit is on the outside

pic did not show up?

[Randy4Candy]

Originally Posted by cptjohnstone

from Rivals national board


HEISMAN HOPEFUL...INMATE # 29483904

What do you call a Sooner fan with no brothers or sisters?

A Virgin Possibly, especially around Tulsa, BUT a FAGro-american pfan would have to be an orphan, aunt-less, uncle-less and cousin-less to remain a Virgin.

You're a sooner fan when your home has more miles than your car. Ah, well, we have homes, ags have barns and dugouts.

What do a tornado and a sooner divorce have in common?

They both mean someone's about to lose a trailer. Tornados have trailers?

how do tell the difference between a pair of OSU boots and a pair of ou boots?

on the OSU boots, the shit is on the outside due to reverse osmosis

pic did not show up? wtf, cpl, you losing your touch?!?

Little ol' me is just waiting on December 3. We'll be gentle and use lots of KY (no, dip-shit, not Kentucky).

[Randy4Candy]

Sooner and Cowboy fans spend lots of time trying to piss down each other's leg in (mostly) good-natured fashion about the relative demerits of the other's school and fan base. But Thursday's plane crash in which OSU Women's Head Basketball coach, Kurt Budke and his Assistant, Miranda Serena were killed along with the pilot and one other passenger is a real tragedy and a terrible loss for each's family, the program and the University.

cptjohnstone and other OSU backers out there, please know that all feel the loss and have their families and the team in our thoughts and prayers during this very difficult time.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

cptjohnstone and other OSU backers out there, please know that all feel the loss and have their families and the team in our thoughts and prayers during this very difficult time.

Well said Randy, indeed it's just football on Saturdays but this is the real world.

[The_Waco_Kid]

• Friday, Nov 18
  • 2 Okla St
    
    
    Iowa St
    • 8:00pm ET

Too late to pick one here but we all know who should win, i think.


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• Saturday, Nov 19
  • 15 Wisconsin
    
    
    Illinois
    • 12:00pm ET

Winner: Wisconsin
Badgers kick the zooker while he's down. At least you better!
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17 Nebraska

20 Michigan

• 12:00pm ET

Winner: Michigan
If you want to bring back the glory days then beat Bo in the Big House.
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• • 
    Indiana
    
    12 Michigan St
    • 12:00pm ET

Winner: Michigan St.
Sparty has no excuses if they let a 1-9 (0-6) bunch of Hoosiers beat them.

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• • 
    Citadel
    
    14 S Carolina
    • 12:00pm ET

Winner: S Carolina
Going all in with the 'ol Ball Coach, who's proved me wrong at least once this year.
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• • 
    Kentucky
    
    13 Georgia
    • 12:20pm ET

Winner: Georgia
Richt has already saved his job, hasn't he?

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• • 
    GA Southern
    
    3 Alabama
    • 2:00pm ET

Winner: Alabama
This is a lock. Tides rolls.
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• • 21 Penn St
    
    
    Ohio St
    • 3:30pm ET

Winner: Penn St.
Going all in with Penn St. And JoePa.

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• • 7 Clemson
    
    
    N.C. St
    • 3:30pm ET

Winner: Clemson
So far, Dabo hasn't had his magic year go south like Tommy Bowden would have. So far, so good, so what?
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• • 
    Miss St
    
    6 Arkansas
    • 3:30pm ET

Winner: Arkansas
Bosshog needs to keep pace and not let Mullen stab him in the ass.
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• • 
    SMU
    
    11 Houston
    • 3:30pm ET

Winner: Houston
This should be a shoot-out. Houston has the edge.
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• • 
    Colorado St
    
    19 TCU
    • 3:30pm ET

Winner: TCU
Went against ya last week, Patty. Not this time.

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• • 
    Boston Coll
    
    24 Notre Dame
    • 4:00pm ET

Winner: Notre Dame
I don't like ND. Never have, never will. But Kelly is a winner.
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• • 1 LSU
    
    
    Mississippi
    • 7:00pm ET

Winner: LSU
Going all in with Lester.
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• • 
    Virginia
    
    23 Florida St
    • 7:30pm ET

Winner: Florida St.
Remember when FSU was a national title contender? Neither do I.
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• • 18 USC
    
    4 Oregon
    • 8:00pm ET

Winner: Oregon
Don't let Lame Kiffy pull a Petey on you now, Duckies.
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• • 10 Boise St
    
    
    San Diego St
    • 8:00pm ET

Winner: Boise St.
You need this one to bounce back, Smurfs.
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• • 5 Oklahoma
    
    25 Baylor
    • 8:00pm ET

Winner: Oklahoma
You still have a shot Sooners but not if you let da Bears eat you on the road.
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• • 16 Kansas St
    
    
    Texas
    • 8:00pm ET

Winner: Kansas St.
Going to be tough to win this one the way we played last week, even at home.
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• • 
    California
    
    8 Stanford
    • 10:15pm ET

Winner: Stanford
You lost the battle of Oregon last week, Cardinal but at least you still own Californication, right?

[cptjohnstone]

Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

Sooner and Cowboy fans spend lots of time trying to piss down each other's leg in (mostly) good-natured fashion about the relative demerits of the other's school and fan base. But Thursday's plane crash in which OSU Women's Head Basketball coach, Kurt Budke and his Assistant, Miranda Serena were killed along with the pilot and one other passenger is a real tragedy and a terrible loss for each's family, the program and the University.

cptjohnstone and other OSU backers out there, please know that all feel the loss and have their families and the team in our thoughts and prayers during this very difficult time.

thank you, I am drunk for losing to ISU and I think the plane crash had a lot to with it

[The_Waco_Kid]

CHAOS WEEK!!

It was lurking out there and here it is!

Oklahoma State goes down.
Oregon goes down.
Oklahoma goes down.
Clemson goes down.

If LSU goes down it'll be the ultimate BCS nightmare.

PLAYOFF!

[cptjohnstone]

and if Stanford goes down?

stapleclip u going down double nightmare, the local ABC up here could say nothing good about Baylor, only zerou has never lost to Baylor, bla bla bla and Landry Jones will go in the top 10 and win the Hiesman bla bla bla

as to OSU vs ISU, I think we were looking ahead + the deaths+this is new territory for us

[The_Waco_Kid]

At the time i posted the Stanford Cal game was just beginning the second half, right now it's 28-21 Stanford with about 10 minutes in the 4th. If Stanford goes down to Cal it's a real mess. They'll probably pull it out but you never know.

LSU is the last unbeaten only Lester controls his own destiny now.

[The_Waco_Kid]

• Thursday, Nov 17
  • 22 Sthrn Miss
    
    
    UAB
    • 8:00pm ET

Winner: Southern Miss
No time to drop one to a lousy 2-8 UAB team.

• 22 Sthrn Miss 31
  
  UAB 34
  • Final
  • Box Score

and drop one you did Southern Miss. What would Brett say?
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• Friday, Nov 18
  • 2 Okla St
    
    
    Iowa St
    • 8:00pm ET

Too late to pick one here but we all know who should win, i think.

2 Okla St 31

Iowa St 37

• Final 2OT
• Box Score

Tough week Cowpokes. Keep your heads up.
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• Saturday, Nov 19
  • 15 Wisconsin
    
    
    Illinois
    • 12:00pm ET

Winner: Wisconsin
Badgers kick the zooker while he's down. At least you better!


15 Wisconsin 28

Illinois 17

• Final
• Box Score

Wisconsin wonders what might have been if not for a mid-season slump.
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17 Nebraska

20 Michigan

• 12:00pm ET

Winner: Michigan
If you want to bring back the glory days then beat Bo in the Big House.

17 Nebraska 17
20 Michigan 45

• Final
• Box Score

That's more like it, Michigan. You punch Bo in his big fat nose.
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• • 
    Indiana
    
    12 Michigan St
    • 12:00pm ET

Winner: Michigan St.
Sparty has no excuses if they let a 1-9 (0-6) bunch of Hoosiers beat them.



Indiana 3
12 Michigan St 55

• Final
• Box Score

Well done Sparty. You roll right into the Big Ten championship game.
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• • 
    Citadel
    
    14 S Carolina
    • 12:00pm ET

Winner: S Carolina
Going all in with the 'ol Ball Coach, who's proved me wrong at least once this year.



Citadel 20
14 S Carolina 41

• Final
• Box Score

Given all that's happened to SC this season to see them at 9-2 is why the 'ol Ball Coach is .. the 'ol Ball Coach.
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• • 
    Kentucky
    
    13 Georgia
    • 12:20pm ET

Winner: Georgia
Richt has already saved his job, hasn't he?



Kentucky 10
13 Georgia 19

• Final
• Box Score

With your job safe and the SEC East title in hand, your prize is LSU. Ouch.
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    GA Southern
    
    3 Alabama
    • 2:00pm ET

Winner: Alabama
This is a lock. Tides rolls.



GA Southern 21
3 Alabama 45

• Final
• Box Score

Tide played sluggish but they did one thing their other top rivals didn't. Win.
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• • 21 Penn St
    
    
    Ohio St
    • 3:30pm ET

Winner: Penn St.
Going all in with Penn St. And JoePa.

21 Penn St 20

Ohio St 14

• Final
• Box Score

Well done Nittany Lions. You needed this one for your pride.
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• • 7 Clemson
    
    
    N.C. St
    • 3:30pm ET

Winner: Clemson
So far, Dabo hasn't had his magic year go south like Tommy Bowden would have. So far, so good, so what?


7 Clemson 13

N.C. St 37

• Final
• Box Score

Not even close, Dabo. Oh well you still get a rematch with Va Tech for the ACC title.
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• • 
    Miss St
    
    6 Arkansas
    • 3:30pm ET

Winner: Arkansas
Bosshog needs to keep pace and not let Mullen stab him in the ass.



Miss St 17
6 Arkansas 44

• Final
• Box Score

Bosshog gets a tune-up before the big one at LSU.
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    SMU
    
    11 Houston
    • 3:30pm ET

Winner: Houston
This should be a shoot-out. Houston has the edge.



SMU 7
11 Houston 37

• Final
• Box Score

Houston's defense shutdown Junebug's offense. Nice.
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• • 
    Colorado St
    
    19 TCU
    • 3:30pm ET

Winner: TCU
Went against ya last week, Patty. Not this time.

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  Colorado St 10
  19 TCU 34
  • Final
  • Box Score

Patty has TCU looking like .. TCU.
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• • 
    Boston Coll
    
    24 Notre Dame
    • 4:00pm ET

Winner: Notre Dame
I don't like ND. Never have, never will. But Kelly is a winner.


Boston Coll 14
24 Notre Dame 16

• Final
• Box Score

Kelly now gets a chance at the Cardinal. That 9th win's gonna be tough to get.
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• • 1 LSU
    
    
    Mississippi
    • 7:00pm ET

Winner: LSU
Going all in with Lester.


1 LSU 52

Mississippi 3

• Final
• Box Score

Lester rolls on to the SEC title game and then a shot at the Big Crystal Ball.
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• • 
    Virginia
    
    23 Florida St
    • 7:30pm ET

Winner: Florida St.
Remember when FSU was a national title contender? Neither do I.


Virginia 14
23 Florida St 13

• Final
• Box Score

Jimbo finds filling Bobby Bowden's shoes a bit harder than he figured.
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• • 18 USC
    
    4 Oregon
    • 8:00pm ET

Winner: Oregon
Don't let Lame Kiffy pull a Petey on you now, Duckies.

18 USC 38
4 Oregon 35

• Final
• Box Score

I knew an upset was possible but figured the Ducks had the upper hand at home. Not.
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• • 10 Boise St
    
    
    San Diego St
    • 8:00pm ET

Winner: Boise St.
You need this one to bounce back, Smurfs.


10 Boise St 52

San Diego St 35

• Final
• Box Score

I'd be a bit concerned about giving up 35 to SDSU except for the 52 you laid on them.
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• • 5 Oklahoma
    
    25 Baylor
    • 8:00pm ET

Winner: Oklahoma
You still have a shot Sooners but not if you let da Bears eat you on the road.

• 5 Oklahoma 38
  25 Baylor 45
  • Final
  • Box Score

Some days you get the Bear, some days the Bear gets ZerOU.
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• • 16 Kansas St
    
    
    Texas
    • 8:00pm ET

Winner: Kansas St.
Going to be tough to win this one the way we played last week, even at home.

16 Kansas St 17

Texas 13

• Final
• Box Score

We need to quit wasting great defensive play and score some damn points.
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• • 
    California
    
    8 Stanford
    • 10:15pm ET

Winner: Stanford
You lost the battle of Oregon last week, Cardinal but at least you still own Californication, right?



California 28
8 Stanford 31

• Final
• Box Score

Good tough win, Cardinal.

[The_Waco_Kid]

What we learned Week 12

Olin Buchanan
USC has a top-10 team. With USC ineligible for postseason play, the Trojans seem to be forgotten. But they offered a not-so-subtle reminder that they're one of the country's top teams with a 38-35 upset at Oregon. The Trojans' only loss since September was a triple-overtime defeat at the hands of Stanford in which a controversial penalty against S T.J. McDonald was pivotal. They're 9-2 overall and 6-1 since September, and without question, they're the best team in the Pac-12 South. While they're ineligible for the coaches' poll and BCS standings, the Trojans were ranked just 18th in the AP poll last week. They should be in the top 10.
[Dr. Saturday: USC brings the BCS ambush to Oregon]
Baylor QB Robert Griffin III is again among the Heisman leaders. In fact, after leading the Bears to a stunning 45-38 victory over Oklahoma, a strong case could be made that he should be the No. 1 candidate. The trophy goes to the most outstanding player and, frankly, nobody has been more outstanding than Griffin. His 479 passing yards and four touchdowns against Oklahoma marked the eighth time this season he has thrown for more than 300 yards and the fourth time he has thrown for more than 400. It was also the eighth time he has thrown at least three touchdown passes. And his winning 34-yard touchdown pass was a signature Heisman play if there ever was one.

David Fox
Managing timeouts must be tougher than it appears. Separated by about 2,000 miles and two time zones, two of the game's top coaches had the same problem - managing timeouts late in the fourth quarter. Simply put, Oklahoma's Bob Stoops called the timeout Oregon's Chip Kelly should have called. The timeout snafus may end up sealing an all-SEC national championship game. In Eugene, Oregon took over with 2:54 left after a USC fumble. The Ducks went to their up-tempo offense against USC's tired defense. It worked until Oregon reached USC territory. Kelly gambled his up-tempo offense could continue to shred the USC defense, so he opted against any timeouts. The end result was a missed 37-yard field goal in a three-point loss. A few minutes later in real time, after Oklahoma had tied the score at 38, Baylor took over with 51 seconds left. Stoops called a timeout after a first-down run by Baylor, but that move backfired by emboldening Baylor to play for the win. Robert Griffin III responded with a 22-yard run on second down, and that provided the impetus for more Griffin heroics in a 45-38 win. Other factors contributed to these upsets, but the symmetry of the timeout situation couldn't be more glaring.
[Slideshow: Saturday's college football highlights]
The Big East race is just as messy as the BCS. If one conference race looks just like the BCS standings, it belongs to the Big East. The individual teams aren't to the level of LSU and Alabama, but the confusion at the top of the standings is just as apparent. Cincinnati failed to hold onto the league lead with backup QB Munchie Legaux and the defense struggling in a 20-3 loss to Rutgers. That leaves Louisville and Rutgers leading the conference at 4-2, and Cincinnati, West Virginia and Pittsburgh are 3-2, leaving a five-way tie in the loss column. More than that, every team in the Big East can become bowl-eligible. You can argue whether the Big East deserves a BCS spot, but you can't argue it will be a wild race in the next two weeks.

Mike Huguenin
High-powered offenses aren't enough. At some point, if you want to play for a national title, you do actually have to play defense. I'm not saying your defense must be to the level of Alabama's or LSU's. But Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Stanford, Oregon, Clemson, Houston, Arkansas, Boise State - each has lost (or, in Houston's case, eventually will lose) when it gave up at least 30 points. No 24-21 or 28-24 losses - the winning team scored at least 30 every time. At some point, you cannot simply outscore everybody you play.
[Megargee: Winners/losers: College football thrown into chaos]
Mack Brown should be feeling some heat. Last season was a 5-7 debacle for Brown, who changed both coordinators in the offseason - bringing in Bryan Harsin from Boise State to run the offense and Manny Diaz from Mississippi State to oversee the defense. But all the coaching in the world can't disguise that Texas' talent level isn't where it needs to be. That's shocking - and damning. Yes, the Longhorns had a tremendous run of success under Brown, including winning the 2005 national title. But this season's team is 6-4 after Saturday's loss to Kansas State and could finish 6-6, and Texas going 11-13 (or 12-12 or 13-11) in a two-year stretch is a head-shaker.

Steve Megargee
This hasn't been a great year for kickers in clutch situations. We all know how missed field goals cost Alabama the game in its 9-6 overtime loss to LSU. Boise State's title hopes disintegrated last week when Dan Goodale missed a 39-yard field goal as time expired. This tough-luck season for kickers continued this week. Oklahoma State's Quinn Sharp missed a potential go-ahead 37-yard field goal with 1:17 left in the fourth quarter of the Cowboys' 37-31 double-overtime loss to Iowa State. Oregon lost 38-35 to USC when Alejandro Maldonado missed a 37-yard attempt on the game's final play. Florida State's Dustin Hopkins, one of the best kickers in the country, couldn't connect on a 42-yarder with three seconds left in the Seminoles' 14-13 loss to Virginia. All these missed field goals across the country made Utah K Coleman Petersen's achievement all the more remarkable. Utah was playing on a snow-covered field at Washington State on Saturday, but Petersen still somehow made a 38-yard field goal in overtime to give the Utes a 30-27 victory.
[Forde: Big present, future for Case Keenum, Houston]
Houston also can play defense. Let's get one thing straight: Houston is undefeated and aiming toward a BCS bid mainly because it boasts the nation's highest-scoring offense. The Cougars will go as far as record-setting QB Case Keenum takes them. But the defense also is starting to hold up its end of the bargain. Houston's offense wasn't quite as efficient as usual Saturday, but the defense picked up the slack by holding SMU scoreless for the first 51 minutes of a 37-7 victory. After giving up at least 34 points in four of its first eight games this season, Houston has allowed an average of 12.3 points over its past three contests. Houston still would struggle mightily against an SEC or Big 12 offense in a BCS game, but this defense has come a long way since the start of the season.

Mike Huguenin's Week 12 awards
COACHES
Wish I were him: Virginia Tech's Frank Beamer
Glad I'm not him: Oklahoma's Bob Stoops
Lucky guy: Tennessee's Derek Dooley
Poor guy: Florida State's Jimbo Fisher
Desperately seeking a clue: Maryland's Randy Edsall
Desperately seeking a P.R. man: Virginia's Mike London
Desperately seeking sunglasses and a fake beard: Clemson's Dabo Swinney
Desperately seeking ... anything: Indiana's Kevin Wilson

TEAMS
Thought you'd kick butt, you did: LSU
Thought you'd kick butt, you didn't: Oklahoma State
Thought you'd get your butt kicked, you did: Indiana
Thought you'd get your butt kicked, you didn't: Boston College
Dang, they're good: Michigan
Dang, they're bad: UNLV
Did the season start? Washington
Can the season end? Texas Tech
Can the season never end? USC

GAMES
Play this again: Baylor 45, Oklahoma 38
Never play this again: Texas A&M 61, Kansas 7
What? N.C. State 37, Clemson 13
Huh? Baylor 45, Oklahoma 38
Are you kidding me? USC 38, Oregon 35
Oh ? my ? God: Iowa State 37, Oklahoma State 31 (2OTs)

NEXT WEEK
Ticket to die for: Arkansas at LSU (Friday)
Best non-Big Six vs. Big Six matchup: Louisiana-Lafayette at Arizona
Best non-Big Six matchup: Houston at Tulsa (Friday)
Upset alert: Iowa over Nebraska in Lincoln
Must win: Florida State vs. Florida in Gainesville
Offensive explosion: Houston at Tulsa
Defensive struggle: Kent State at Temple (Friday)
Intriguing coaching matchup: Arkansas' Bobby Petrino vs. LSU's Les Miles
Who's bringing the body bags? Missouri vs. Kansas in Kansas City, Mo.
Plenty of good seats remaining: Illinois at Minnesota
They shoot horses, don't they? Ole Miss at Mississippi State