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Old 08-19-2011, 06:23 PM   #46
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Can someone tell me why Obama has no friends from his college years that even remember him? It's like he didn't even exist.
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:39 PM   #47
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Is there any way to rationally discuss politics with people who point out Bush's faults, real and imagined, but fail to rationally analyze Obama's flaws. There is plenty to criticize in all presidents but if you cannot honestly look at the good as well you are just wasting time.
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Old 08-21-2011, 06:16 PM   #48
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Quote:
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Can someone tell me why Obama has no friends from his college years that even remember him? It's like he didn't even exist.
Wrong. There are many people that remember him

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Is there any way to rationally discuss politics with people who point out Bush's faults, real and imagined, but fail to rationally analyze Obama's flaws. There is plenty to criticize in all presidents but if you cannot honestly look at the good as well you are just wasting time.
Your second statement is correct and ironic.
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=271924
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=275871
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=276247
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=275939
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=275302
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=274970
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=274968
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=273391
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=272853
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=272999

Here is a sample of the threads here. You should easily see why Bush comes up so much. Evaluating Presidential performance is often comparative with other presidents. A fact lost on many. Post a valid thread about a true Obama issue and watch what happens. Of course he has fucked up. But 30%-40% won’t admit he has done anything right. Nothing. The 1st poster I responded to in my post made a statement that the right uses without questioning....or confirming anything. Cut and pasters. That’s enough for now.
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Old 08-21-2011, 06:35 PM   #49
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Let's not forget that both New York and Massachusetts have a lower unemployment rate than Texas (and higher wages). That's because their populations are much better educated than ours.

How's that low dollar government shit working for y'all now.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/texas-and-employment/
Texas leads the nation in minimum-wage jobs, and many positions don’t offer health benefits. Also, steep budget cuts are expected to result in the loss of more than 100,000 jobs.
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Many of the positions that have been created are on the lower end of the pay scale. Some 550,000 workers last year were paid at or below the federal minimum wage of $7.25, more than double the number making those wages in 2008, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

That’s 9.5% of Texas’ hourly workforce, which gives it the highest percentage of minimum-wage hourly workers in the nation — a dubious title it shares with Mississippi.


Paul Krugman also makes the excellent point that exporting Texas's model of poaching jobs from other States will do nothing at the national level:

What Texas shows is that a state offering cheap labor and, less important, weak regulation can attract jobs from other states. I believe that the appropriate response to this insight is “Well, duh.” The point is that arguing from this experience that depressing wages and dismantling regulation in America as a whole would create more jobs — which is, whatever Mr. Perry may say, what Perrynomics amounts to in practice — involves a fallacy of composition: every state can’t lure jobs away from every other state.



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/op...=1&ref=opinion
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