This is going to be fun!

[oshins]

I was never a bubblehead, (i.e. never served on subs for you non-Navy) but I may try to be reinstated on a boomer if this actually goes anywhere.

[Rodram]

Where do I sign up!?!? I would like to be the torpedo guy too cuz workin w/women around a giant torpedo for hours on end has gotta get to them sometime!

[Guest081519]

Originally Posted by Rodram

Where do I sign up!?!? I would like to be the torpedo guy too cuz workin w/women around a giant torpedo for hours on end has gotta get to them sometime!

Rod, this is not directed towards you specifically. I know that you are mainly kidding around, but it's attitudes like this that makes it hard for women to work around men while in the military.

I was aboard the USS Peleliu during my second deployment and we had three females on board. One Marine (a maintenance controller with the harrier community), and two Navy (a helicopter pilot with the SAR unit and one flight surgeon attached with the helo community).

There was constant lack of respect towards these women. There wasn't a day where I didn't hear a sexist comment. There were always rumors about who the women were having affairs with (mind you all of these women were commissioned officers and if true and caught there would be dire consequences). If indeed there were relationships on-board ship, that was their business and no one else's.

Each and every time that I had to interact with them, they were always very professional (more so than their counter parts). I wish we (as men) just get over ourselves and start treating women with a little more respect.

I'm not denying that there are times when people indulge in this kind of behavior. All I'm saying is that professionalism and respect in the workplace is a must to have a good working relationship. Especially when people's lives depend on your decisions.

[oshins]

Things may have changed aboard the Peleliu...

Link

[implied humor]

Schnell is the 12th commanding officer to be relieved in 2010. The Navy removed seven commanding officers between Jan. 1 and March 15 alone. Seventeen commanders were relieved in 2009.
Reasons for the firings this year have ranged from public alcohol abuse and prostitute solicitation to running a ship into a pier

I remember a time when only one of those was cause to be relieved of your command.

[Guest081519]

Originally Posted by oshins

Things may have changed aboard the Peleliu...

Link

[implied humor]


I remember a time when only one of those was cause to be relieved of your command.

No shit! Fucking idiots everywhere. Yeah, things were a little different in 97. We were under very strict orders. Wog day was canceled during that cruise (pissed me off at the time, because I was a shell back by then).

[oshins]

I honestly don't know if the people have changed (their behavior), or if we as a society tend to go around looking for an excuse to be offended.

[Gladman]

Originally Posted by oshins

. . . if we as a society tend to go around looking for an excuse to be offended.

^ ^ ^ T H I S
I wish all grade schools would start counting goals again . . . .

[oshins]

Counting goals?!? Get them in boxing.

[Mokoa]

JJ, all I can say is...



Nailed It!



I salute you, sir!

Thank you for your service.

[Rodram]

Originally Posted by JJ

Rod, this is not directed towards you specifically. I know that you are mainly kidding around, but it's attitudes like this that makes it hard for women to work around men while in the military.

I was aboard the USS Peleliu during my second deployment and we had three females on board. One Marine (a maintenance controller with the harrier community), and two Navy (a helicopter pilot with the SAR unit and one flight surgeon attached with the helo community).

There was constant lack of respect towards these women. There wasn't a day where I didn't hear a sexist comment. There were always rumors about who the women were having affairs with (mind you all of these women were commissioned officers and if true and caught there would be dire consequences). If indeed there were relationships on-board ship, that was their business and no one else's.

Each and every time that I had to interact with them, they were always very professional (more so than their counter parts). I wish we (as men) just get over ourselves and start treating women with a little more respect.

I'm not denying that there are times when people indulge in this kind of behavior. All I'm saying is that professionalism and respect in the workplace is a must to have a good working relationship. Especially when people's lives depend on your decisions.

Oh no problem JJ, I know exactly what you are talking about. I recently left a very large telecommunications company here in SA(you know who that is) where sexual harassment was a huge problem. The incidents were posted(no names of course) in the company intranet under the Code of Business Conduct.
Harassment was coming from both sides in my office but the complaints were mainly from women. The older male office managers were the ones who had the biggest problem because we had quite a few younger women working there. Some of those girls dressed way to provocatively for a business environment but it's no excuse, we have to keep our urges in check at all times.
That's also why I never partied with the employees. One time an office party at the Bonham Bicycle Club spilled over to an apartment and then turned into sex amongst themselves and suffice it to say, it caused such a big problem at the office that 1 was fired and 2 others were transferred away.

Those sub crews, I would imagine, are highly disciplined and I'm sure they could handle themselves better than their civilian counterparts.

[Rodram]

Originally Posted by oshins

I honestly don't know if the people have changed (their behavior), or if we as a society tend to go around looking for an excuse to be offended.

Probably a little bit of both.