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Old Today, 01:38 AM   #1
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Default What happened on Oct 7 one year ago was horrific. Israel's response? Genocide and state-sponsored terrorism..

I don't defend Hamas for a single microsecond. what they did was a war crime of the highest order. But Israel's response? disproportionate doesn't even scratch the surface. war crimes in black and white. netanyahu and his whole far right likud cabinet-save only 1 or 2 ministers-should be indicted and tried in the Hague, like tomorrow..

and we're covering Israel's back, and sending troops there? total insanity. time to cut Israel loose and wish Netanyahu good luck. what in God's name are the Biden/Harris admin even thinking?

course Trump would just say, fuck it. let's just bomb the Hague instead, and nuke the whole Middle East, save only the Saudis..

need i remind you that 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists were Saudis? you want to know who the real Islamic State is? ya it's not Isis; it's fucking Saudia Arabia, a bunch of effing pervs who treat women like children and 4th class citizens. and that's the only country-led by a bone-saw murderer who founded the Bone Saw Murderer Golf Tour-that Trump wouldn't nuke, because, let's face it, Trump is enfatuated with despots and shiny things-course the Saudis make their toilets out of gold while the Palestinians suffer as bad or worse than the Jews during the Holocaust..

of course, all of this makes perfect sense, and American blood should be spilled and American treasure expended to support the Fascist Netanyahu's war on basically the better part of the Mideast..
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Except for the verbiage, what would a Trump administration have done differently from the Biden administration? Not much. There’s strong bipartisan support to arm and fund Israel. Unfortunately the neoconservatives in both parties still control our foreign policy and purse strings.
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I don't defend Hamas for a single microsecond. what they did was a war crime of the highest order. But Israel's response? disproportionate doesn't even scratch the surface. war crimes in black and white. netanyahu and his whole far right likud cabinet-save only 1 or 2 ministers-should be indicted and tried in the Hague, like tomorrow..

and we're covering Israel's back, and sending troops there? total insanity. time to cut Israel loose and wish Netanyahu good luck. what in God's name are the Biden/Harris admin even thinking?

course Trump would just say, fuck it. let's just bomb the Hague instead, and nuke the whole Middle East, save only the Saudis..

need i remind you that 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists were Saudis? you want to know who the real Islamic State is? ya it's not Isis; it's fucking Saudia Arabia, a bunch of effing pervs who treat women like children and 4th class citizens. and that's the only country-led by a bone-saw murderer who founded the Bone Saw Murderer Golf Tour-that Trump wouldn't nuke, because, let's face it, Trump is enfatuated with despots and shiny things-course the Saudis make their toilets out of gold while the Palestinians suffer as bad or worse than the Jews during the Holocaust..

of course, all of this makes perfect sense, and American blood should be spilled and American treasure expended to support the Fascist Netanyahu's war on basically the better part of the Mideast..
... Please explain what Israel's "war crimes" are, so
we can all understand WHAT was disproportionate there.
Even-that YOU don't defend Hamas for a micro-second.

Hmmm... Do you also defend the Hamas protests in the
streets in citys of America - yelling "Death to the Jews"??
How is THAT not Hate speech??

... Not quite sure which one-sided point you are trying
to make here, mate... Please clue us on.

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I think that Israel needs to decide on what they are going to do here. This get punched, and punch back mentality has no end to it. If Hamas and the Palestinians were ballsy enough to just come in guns a blazing- then I don't really have much sympathy for anyone on the other side....BUT


Ultimately- they need to come up with a solution that is either so effective a punch in the nose, or decide that the escallation game they keep playing has no conclusion. At some point- the Arabs are and the Iranians are going to get directly involved and it's gonna be very hard to stop; Israel's problem is all the collateral damage to civilians (if there are any left in the area), and the worlds view and sympathy for 1200 ppl on Oct 7 2023 will be gone. Then they are literally gonna be fucked without support for their sovereignty.

My opinion- they need to de-escalate now before they can't anymore. It's a zero sum gain to keep chasing rouge agents;
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Hamas Hezebollah and the other Iran proxies are the cause of the “disproportionate “ response. If the Palestinians and other Arabs want this to stop they’ll wipe them out themselves. Otherwise Israel should keep destroying anywhere those organizations operate.

As for “Hamas” protests in the US, we tolerate it just like we tolerate the white racists. Even the ones on this site are allowed to post racist drivel. Even the former president thought a bunch of white racists were “good people”. Our tolerance for things we believe are abhorrent thinking is what makes us a great country and why we remain free.

Some of us even served in the military to preserve that right for others. Sadly the ones that were most unwilling to make any sacrifice whine the most.
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Hamas Hezebollah and the other Iran proxies are the cause of the “disproportionate “ response. If the Palestinians and other Arabs want this to stop they’ll wipe them out themselves. Otherwise Israel should keep destroying anywhere those organizations operate.

As for “Hamas” protests in the US, we tolerate it just like we tolerate the white racists. Even the ones on this site are allowed to post racist drivel. Even the former president thought a bunch of white racists were “good people”. Our tolerance for things we believe are abhorrent thinking is what makes us a great country and why we remain free.

Some of us even served in the military to preserve that right for others. Sadly the ones that were most unwilling to make any sacrifice whine the most.

+ 1 good sir!
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