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09-23-2024, 03:23 AM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Jan 1, 2010
Location: Austin Texas
Posts: 1,963
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Providers are small business owners. They define the product they are offering, They define the requirements for new customers, they define the price they charge. If you choose to pass on the product then they have to live with out your business.
What’s not to understand about this.
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09-23-2024, 07:00 AM
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#17
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BANNED
Join Date: Mar 29, 2015
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 982
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If you don't like their screening requirements: Move along to someone else.
If you don't like their rates: Move along to someone else.
If you don't like their level of service: Move along to someone else.
If you don't like where they are located: Move along to someone else.
If she is not of your preferred body type, height, weight, race, nationality, ethnicity, hair color, tattoo status, or religion: Move along to someone else.
The comment about someone else seeing their well being and family being more important than yours is universal. You should have the very same attitude.
As already stated in this thread: This is their business. They can run it as they like. There is no "fair market value" on ass. If there were, we'd see those labels on the ladies like we see in the meat market at the grocery store. You could see what you like, see how much it is per whatever, scan it at the register and go to town. Each person, on both sides of the aisle, have their own reasons for participating in this hobby. So find someone who fits what screening you are willing to commit to, has the rates you are willing to pay for the services you like, is in the part of town that you are comfortable going to, and who fits your desired type of lady (or man). It's as simple as that.
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09-23-2024, 07:02 AM
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#18
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BANNED
Join Date: Mar 29, 2015
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 982
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Originally Posted by txdot-guy
Providers are small business owners. They define the product they are offering, They define the requirements for new customers, they define the price they charge. If you choose to pass on the product then they have to live with out your business.
What’s not to understand about this.
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There are some ladies on these sits who I think would be amazing corporate sales types, given what I've seen on their tenacity and marketing of themselves. If someone could bottle that..they'd make a killing.
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09-23-2024, 08:29 AM
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#19
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Premium Access
Join Date: Aug 25, 2024
Location: San Jose
Posts: 12
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Originally Posted by Busty
^wrong,there are plenty of gentlemen seeing verified providers that have great reviews without any wrong doings and happily providing screening information.
I don't expect a hobbyist to hand over all his personal data to an unverified woman that has no reputation.
A reputable provider is the same as a company that has stellar reviews and is with the BBB.
The intelligent hobbyist are doing that for a business investment.
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Nah. Using the BBB as a template for a business being good is just about as useful as believing all the great "reviews" left about "verified" providers. I've shown up plenty of times to well-reviewed providers that looked nothing like the pictures, and produced poor service. I'm not saying that's a majority percentage, but it's enough. It's like those businesses in Costco that pitch you as you walk out the door. If you believe that they must be great because Costco let them in, well, you deserve what you get when purchasing solar from them. lol
I'll stop with this one, because it appears folks here are mostly aligned on the outcome of not wanting to send self-identifying info, we just differ on where the sympathies lie. Best of luck to all.
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09-23-2024, 08:57 AM
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(Xzn/Xzan)
Join Date: Aug 11, 2016
Location: Harmaston
Posts: 4,768
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Originally Posted by Busty
Easy solution, choose the one's that don't screen
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09-25-2024, 09:47 AM
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#21
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Sep 15, 2020
Location: New location
Posts: 81
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There are only two reasons a provider would want personal info. One, for her safety in knowing that the client is legit and not going to waste her time. The other reason is to scam the client outright or have a record that could potentially bribe the the client in the future.
I don't like giving my personal info unless I know that the provider is legit and most of the time I look elsewhere. I don't understand that if you are a member of a verification site (like p411) then why is that not enough.
I once had a provider tell me as a member of p411 she needed more info because I hadn't seen a provider in two years in my okays list. She said clients change over time and needed something currently. Which made more sense to me.
Ladies are there other reasons you would want more personal info of a potential client if that client is a member of a verification site that you are a member of as well?
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09-25-2024, 01:31 PM
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Lifetime Premium Access
Join Date: Aug 14, 2021
Location: USA
Posts: 310
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Originally Posted by Mr69Jones
There are only two reasons a provider would want personal info. One, for her safety in knowing that the client is legit and not going to waste her time. The other reason is to scam the client outright or have a record that could potentially bribe the the client in the future.
I don't like giving my personal info unless I know that the provider is legit and most of the time I look elsewhere. I don't understand that if you are a member of a verification site (like p411) then why is that not enough.
I once had a provider tell me as a member of p411 she needed more info because I hadn't seen a provider in two years in my okays list. She said clients change over time and needed something currently. Which made more sense to me.
Ladies are there other reasons you would want more personal info of a potential client if that client is a member of a verification site that you are a member of as well?
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I actually had a provider on p411 tell me that wasn’t enough for her screening. Plenty of elite ladies who don’t play the bullshit deposit and excessive info game.
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09-27-2024, 10:12 PM
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#23
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Upgraded Female Account
User ID: 183482
Join Date: Apr 15, 2013
Location: Des Moines
Posts: 286
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As a provider who's been in the adult industry since a very young age, I understand both sides concerns and I can say I only wish we had these types of services to keep us safe. In the late 90's/ early 00's we had to use a buddy system which did not always work. However, as a provider in this day and age I understand the gentleman's concern because yes there are a lot of scammers that'll take your deposit and rob you, no doubt but that's also why thinking smarter not harder or with your man parts comes in. Things have changed drastically with the technology. But most legit, verified providers make there name their business and build that reputation to ease those concerns, its our business and livelihood those that don't ask those things usually come with "company" which is fine except you don't know the type of "company" they're keeping. those are also the ones that switch pictures, change numbers and stuff, I've had my number 15 years. which can't be said for most "anonymous" acquaintances. However is far as screening goes I do require rwi and ive never had an issue, I'm very discreet but ive also had many people fill out my form and have domestic battery charges, I've found people on the registry, like no I will not put myself in danger. the amount of dispicable behavior that has grown at an all time high. and yes while I understand Im replaceable in someones eyes I'm not in mine or my family's so therefore I will continue to ask that. As far as p411 goes they do not look to see if you have a violent criminal record or are any registry its simply helpful to some however I don't accept references either so that doesn't work for me.
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09-28-2024, 05:26 AM
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Premium Access
Join Date: Dec 13, 2023
Location: In the ground
Posts: 181
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Under cover cops possess a second ID (fake) and background to substantiate their information in case their identity comes into question. I know a DEA agent who has such documents issued by his department. I reckon an undercover Vice cop could easily infiltrate an agency or independent lovely without ever drawing suspicion. There is no fail proof method, the risks are always present in this thing we call hobby.
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09-29-2024, 07:43 PM
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Macey Jewel
User ID: 551905
Join Date: Mar 15, 2021
Location: Rogers, AR
Posts: 328
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Originally Posted by Busty
Take your own advice because all the griping won't change how a provider does her safety screening that weeds out the rapist and killers.Not everything is about running into a cop.
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I agree with you, Clients that cooperate with screening also dont push boundaries. Clients that push boundaries like to tell me how I should screen them. Im often mystified as to why they contacted me to begin with if they dont want to go through real world screening. Its mentioned early in my ad in grave detail. I also offer a way around it if they have two referrals. If he has no referrals then a newbie has to start somewhere. I can sometimes verify if they are using a real phone number. When they arrive at my studio I have my LMT license hanging on the wall.
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