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Old 09-19-2024, 11:17 PM   #1
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remember biological boys and girls .. this is left leaning Politico here. and even they see the Titanic steering toward the ice berg


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Politico Points to 'Warning Signs' of Harris-Walz Campaign

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraha...paign-n2644984


With less than two months before the 2024 election, Vice President Kamala Harris still has some work to do if she wants to win over key voting groups that are critical for her success.


Left-wing publication, Politico, pointed out “warning signs” of the Harris-Walz campaign among Black voters as concerns mount that the vice president won’t be able to muster up enough votes to secure a win. Black voter turnout has historically played a key role in determining the outcome of elections for Democrats. However, as noted by Politico, Harris’ support among the demographic appears to be declining.


The outlet pointed out that in 2020, about 90 percent of Black voters supported President Joe Biden. However, with Harris now in the running, a HIT Strategies and Hart Research survey found that just 63 percent of Black voters prefer Harris, compared to 13 percent who support former President Donald Trump. This comes after a NAACP released a poll revealing that one in four younger Black men have thrown their support behind the 45th president.
Though there is continuity in platform and campaign staff between President Joe Biden’s and now-Harris’ campaign, instead of a doom-and-gloom warning over lofty democratic ideals, Harris has emphasized a more practical message of freedom focused on economic opportunity and reproductive rights.


The network exit poll four years ago did show Black voters between the ages of 30 and 44 were twice as likely to support Trump (19 percent) as those 18 to 29 (10 percent), 45 to 60 (10 percent) or 60 and older (7 percent).


The gender gap is significant. Two-thirds of Black women (67 percent) back Harris, but among Black men under 50 Harris’ support plummets to 49 percent. Researchers caution the poll was conducted in early August — before both the Democratic convention and this week’s presidential debate — and say late-deciding voters may break for Harris.


Democratic National Committee Chair Jaime Harrison claimed that if Harris can get Black voter turnout in rural areas such as Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, it will be “the reason why Kamala Harris is going to be elected 47th president.”


This comes after Harris said she expects to “earn” the Black vote in November while speaking at the National Association of Black Journalists (NABJ) this week— one month after Trump spoke to the same group.


“I’m working to earn the vote, not assuming I’m going to have it because I’m Black,” Harris said, calling “our young Black men … the backbone of our economy — and when they do better, we all do better.”

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Dems want to be behind in polls at election time. This insures that the maximum amount of Harris voters come out and vote. This is part of the reason why Clinton lost, ahead in polls, eh she'll win anyway, a bunch didn't show up to vote and she lost.
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Old 09-20-2024, 01:36 AM   #3
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Dems want to be behind in polls at election time. This insures that the maximum amount of Harris voters come out and vote. This is part of the reason why Clinton lost, ahead in polls, eh she'll win anyway, a bunch didn't show up to vote and she lost.

so .. you are saying she wants to be losing in the polls so she can win?

interesting strategy
let us know how that works out after November 5th


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Old 09-20-2024, 04:34 AM   #4
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@Waco, four paragraphs from the bottom, the poll was conducted in August. This was before the Democratic convention and debate. BTW, the Wall Street Journal says Harris won the debate. Current polling on your favorite cable channel Fox News has Harris ahead of Trump in all four of these swing states, Penn, Mich, Wisc and Nev. If Harris takes all four she will get to 270 electoral college votes. Trump can go back to the Mar-A-Largo and stay there!
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Old 09-20-2024, 07:47 AM   #5
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I think one of the points you were trying to make TWK, is that Harris needs the black vote. Her recent appearance on Oprah and with the black leaders caucus, where they were able to gather 1.6 million dollars in donations in less than 60 minutes, tells you there's wide support for her. And despite black males perhaps wanting to vote for Trump, it's well known that black females outvote their counterpart black males almost three to one. And black female voters in fact do vote. Males not so much. I'm sure you have your hopes up, but come November 5th we'll see who turns out!

Additionally all the HB CUs are going to turn out for Harris in huge numbers
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Old 09-20-2024, 10:23 AM   #6
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ec2 has valid comments.
But the key issue is if folks, of any race, accept that Harris can deliver on her platform proposals. Most do not believe that.
We are not electing a queen for 4 yrs. Whoever the prez is has to get congress to go along with anything.
Biden couldn't.
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Old 09-20-2024, 06:49 PM   #7
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I think one of the points you were trying to make TWK, is that Harris needs the black vote. Her recent appearance on Oprah and with the black leaders caucus, where they were able to gather 1.6 million dollars in donations in less than 60 minutes, tells you there's wide support for her. And despite black males perhaps wanting to vote for Trump, it's well known that black females outvote their counterpart black males almost three to one. And black female voters in fact do vote. Males not so much. I'm sure you have your hopes up, but come November 5th we'll see who turns out!

Additionally all the HB CUs are going to turn out for Harris in huge numbers

indeed she does. but don't expect black women to vote for Harris by default just because she's part black .. her mother was from India .. many are unsure about her policies .. because as we all know .. she has no policies.


this came out during the DNC convention .. they aren't falling over themselves to vote for Harris just because she's half-black.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGbYb3o2GiE


one lady said she wouldn't vote for Harris just to elect a black woman because "black politicians have let them down before"




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ec2 has valid comments.
But the key issue is if folks, of any race, accept that Harris can deliver on her platform proposals. Most do not believe that.
We are not electing a queen for 4 yrs. Whoever the prez is has to get congress to go along with anything.
Biden couldn't.

which proposals? the ones she stole from Trump or the ones she won't explain?


and people wonder why no one trusts this woman



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Old 09-21-2024, 05:39 AM   #8
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...it's well known that black females outvote their counterpart black males almost three to one.

Got a link for that, eye?

You're claiming 3/4 of all blacks who go to the polls are female, and only 1/4 are guys?

Prove it.
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Old 09-21-2024, 07:58 AM   #9
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There are many conflicting opinions from the "experts" on the election. But most favor Harris. Today. None of the models use polling data for the most part.

Nate Silver's model, which had previously supported a Trump victory in November has shifted to a Harris victory.

https://www.newsweek.com/nate-silver...-trump-1957027

538 is predicting a Harris victory.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...tion-forecast/

Alan Lichtman, who has correctly predicted 9 of the last 10 presidential elections predicts a Harris victory.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...t/75159621007/

All the betting odds favor Harris.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/bet...2024/president

The model from The Economist gives Harris a 60% chance of victory.

https://www.economist.com/interactiv...odel/president
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There are many conflicting opinions from the "experts" on the election. But most favor Harris. Today. None of the models use polling data for the most part.

Nate Silver's model, which had previously supported a Trump victory in November has shifted to a Harris victory.

https://www.newsweek.com/nate-silver...-trump-1957027

538 is predicting a Harris victory.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...tion-forecast/

Alan Lichtman, who has correctly predicted 9 of the last 10 presidential elections predicts a Harris victory.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...t/75159621007/

All the betting odds favor Harris.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/bet...2024/president

The model from The Economist gives Harris a 60% chance of victory.

https://www.economist.com/interactiv...odel/president
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Excellent post Speedracer. The polling numbers of the swing states that Harris needs to win the Electoral college are looking good for her.
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