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04-02-2024, 10:53 PM
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Kudos to J.K Rowlings
JK Rowling is 'practically daring police' to arrest her after the idiots in Scotland implemented a new hate crime law
Scotland's controversial new law on hate crimes, which critics warn will have a 'chilling effect' on free speech, was activated on April 1. The text of the bill, restricts free speech against a group of persons" of certain protected characteristics, including age, disability, religion or, in the case of a social or cultural group, perceived religious affiliation, sexual orientation, transgender identity, and variations in sex characteristics. The maximum penalty is a seven-year jail sentence.
Rowling, who lives in Scotland’s capital city of Edinburgh, began an April Fool’s Day social media thread by listing multiple biologically male criminals who claimed to be transgender just prior to being sentenced for various horrific crimes, expressing mock relief their avowed gender identities were being respected. She then switched her rhetoric and declared, "Only kidding. Obviously, the people mentioned in the above tweets aren't women at all, but men, every last one of them."
After slamming Scotland’s new hate speech bill directly, Rowling declared, "if what I've written here qualifies as an offense under the terms of the new act, I look forward to being arrested when I return to the birthplace of the Scottish Enlightenment."
Police have declared they will not prosecute the author.
Rowling hailed the decision, declaring, "I hope every woman in Scotland who wishes to speak up for the reality and importance of biological sex will be reassured by this announcement, and I trust that all women - irrespective of profile or financial means - will be treated equally under the law."
Rowling vowed, "If they go after any woman for simply calling a man a man, I'll repeat that woman's words and they can charge us both at once."
Scotland’s new hate speech law has sent shockwaves across Scotland and the entire UK.
The Telegraph reported that former deputy leader of the Scottish National Party, Jim Sillars, launched a campaign to "resist the Hate Crime Act and campaign for its repeal."
"Today on their own admission, Police Scotland will translate itself from a service into a force for one particular purpose — the pursuit of people who speak their minds," Sillars said. This law "inflicts a deep wound on the face of Scottish society."
Rishi Sunak, the prime minister of the UK, commented directly on Rowling’s challenge to the Scottish Police, declaring, "We should not be criminalizing people saying common sense things about biological sex, clearly that isn’t right" and that "We have a proud tradition of free speech."
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04-04-2024, 12:04 AM
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Saw this great analysis of JK Rowlings move to expose and take down this ridiculous law:
It's hard to overstate how important - and strategically brilliant -
JK Rowling's power move was, a first-move checkmate that effectively
neutered Scotland's dangerous new Hate Crime Bill.
By openly and unambiguously breaking this law - on a massive public platform - on its very first day, she has in effect nullified the law by forcing the authorities in Scotland into a corner where they only have two options, both of which will be this laws downfall. They can:
Option 1) Enforce the law as it's written, arrest Ms Rowling, creating the world's greatest Streisand Effect and put this law under the kind of extreme scrutiny it was never designed to withstand. Her arrest and trial would be in many ways the biggest media event in years and give the deep-pocketed Rowling the world's biggest stage with which to expose transgenderism on trial. Anybody regularly involved in this debate knows the massive, enormous flaws in the logic that underpins gender ideology, and instinctively understands a trial of this magnitude would be a death blow both for this law in particular, and gender ideology in general.
Option 2) They DONT enforce the law (precisely BECAUSE they know it would kick off a humiliating battle they cannot win, and would galvanize such strong public support against the law that the SNP would likely suffer catastrophic political consequences) and the Elephant In The Room of having such a massive public personality so openly break the law without any consequences effectively renders the law null and void for anybody charged with it who ISN'T JK Rowling. All anybody charged with this law would have to do would be introduce Rowling's tweet thread in court and make the extremely persuasive argument that it is being selectively and arbitrarily enforced. After all, if such a massive public voice isn't charged under this law, clearly the law is unenforceable on anyone else. In effect, Rowling has created a shield for anyone WITHOUT her massive platform and deep pockets with her thread that - so long as it remains public on @X and she remains uncharged - effectively gives anyone else a Get Out of Jail Free card.
Either way, the law is cooked: either they charge Rowling and the resulting massive scrutiny of the law will inevitably result in it's repeal OR they don't charge her and the law is in effect utterly nullified.
Heads she wins, tails they lose. This is about as close to a chess match being lost on the first move as you're ever going to see.
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04-04-2024, 10:10 PM
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... She stood up to them - and they backed right down!
#### Salty
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04-05-2024, 08:57 AM
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Would you applaud publicly outing men or women equally for any reason?
I understand that this is to try to get out of various sentencing for crimes these men had been facing, but what if it was for something like solicitation?
Should outing ppl be ok for any reason like that?
When a plausible defense is mounted- as these men tried, was it merely to avoid punishment or was it truly that they were Trans?
I am not sure that anyone can imperically can say with 100% certainty
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04-05-2024, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... She stood up to them - and they backed right down!
#### Salty
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They did indeed Salty !!!
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04-05-2024, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by eyecu2
Would you applaud publicly outing men or women equally for any reason?
I understand that this is to try to get out of various sentencing for crimes these men had been facing, but what if it was for something like solicitation?
Should outing ppl be ok for any reason like that?
When a plausible defense is mounted- as these men tried, was it merely to avoid punishment or was it truly that they were Trans?
I am not sure that anyone can imperically can say with 100% certainty
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This is all about FREE SPEECH
Do you support putting someone in prison for up to 7 years for calling a man who dresses like a woman a man? Yes or no?
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04-05-2024, 12:32 PM
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Of course not. I Don't agree with any law that makes it criminal to speak out, but I also don't believe in outing somebody directly. I don't think it should be a criminal offense however I do think that she's open to libel.
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04-05-2024, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by eyecu2
Of course not. I Don't agree with any law that makes it criminal to speak out, but I also don't believe in outing somebody directly. I don't think it should be a criminal offense however I do think that she's open to libel.
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How exactly is calling a man who dresses like a woman a man libel?
These people can call themselves whatever they want - it still doesn't change the fact they were born a certain gender and that will never change
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04-06-2024, 07:35 AM
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This law literally outlaws honesty.
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