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Old 09-16-2023, 11:35 AM   #31
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You should reread more carefully.
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Old 09-16-2023, 08:32 PM   #32
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Old 10-02-2023, 11:24 PM   #33
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The North Tower fell because a Plane hit it. The South Tower Fell because a plane hit it. Building 7 fell because it it caught fire from the inside. The Pentagon was hit by a plane at ground level. No, it was hit by a Missile.


https://www.bitchute.com/video/6GN9txdjdSeq/
that video is fake.

besides, there were aircraft debris in front of the pentagon impact site.
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Old 10-02-2023, 11:37 PM   #34
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If it was a Plane there would have been an obvious debris field. Your common sense lesson for the day.
there was some debris from the plane.

there were witnesses who saw the plane flying overhead toward the pentagon.
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Old 10-02-2023, 11:39 PM   #35
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that video is fake.

besides, there were aircraft debris in front of the pentagon impact site.
No plane hit the pentagon. Military and Civilian Pilots have confirmed that.
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Old 10-02-2023, 11:46 PM   #36
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I looked at that security video. poor image quality tho. cheap ass pentagon security camera.

it was indeed an aircraft. slow it down to .25. and pause it before it hits the building. at the edge of the video is the airliner's distinct large tail. it is partially cut off at tail part, but you can see that the edge rises to the top. the aircraft is white and very long and wide.

I doubt we have a cruise missile that long or wide.
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Old 10-03-2023, 11:19 PM   #37
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aircraft debris outside pentagon
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witnesses...

https://www.wctv.tv/2021/09/07/i-was...-pentagon-911/


‘I was astounded’: U.S. Marshal describes seeing plane crash into the Pentagon on 9/11

Former North Florida U.S. Marshal James Lockley was in a meeting across the street when Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon on September 11.

By Julie Montanaro
Published: Sep. 7, 2021 at 5:26 PM CDT

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (WCTV) - Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon at 9:37 a.m. on September 11, 2001, killing military and civilian employees working inside and everyone aboard the plane.

184 people in all.

The U.S. Marshal for North Florida just happened to be in Washington D.C. that day at a meeting right across the street.

He and other Marshals from across the country were on the eighth floor, conducting interviews in hopes of hiring more Deputy Marshals.

That’s when he saw Flight 77 crash into the Pentagon right outside the window.

“I vividly remember that day,” James Lockley remembered. “I was in the conference room and remember hearing a loud sound and saw a commercial airliner crashing into the Pentagon, and then seeing the explosion that occurred with that.

“I was astounded to see that occur.”

Lockley described people in uniform streaming out of the Pentagon.

“Some of them were running. Some of them were walking fast. You could see them with their cell phones in their hands attempting to make calls,” he recalled.

He described thick billowing smoke and military choppers flying overhead.

“I was in a panic mode and seeing what we could do to assist...give assistance where we could, if any.”

Lockley first thought it was an accident, perhaps a plane crashing short of the runway at National Airport right across the river.

“Everything was happening so fast,” Lockley said.

It took a minute for it to start sinking in; terrorists had taken control of a 757, slamming it into the heart of the nation’s defense system.

“I remember thinking the arrogance, someone had the audacity to attack America,” Lockley said. “It was like a reminiscence of like a Pearl Harbor bombing...that we had just had a sneak attack on us.”

Lockley described trying desperately to reach his wife to let her know he was okay. Cell phones weren’t working and airlines across the country were swiftly grounded.

It took him several days to get a rental car to get out of Washington, D.C. and back to Florida.

“I guess it made us realize that we weren’t invincible. That we were vulnerable that we can be attacked,” Lockley said when asked how he thought America changed on that day.

Lockley says it’s hard to describe the confusion and panic of that day. No one knew what was going to happen next.

“The impact was horrific because again, not knowing what other kinds of things were going to occur, you had the White House in that vicinity, you had other military institutions, you had Andrews Air Force Base,” Lockley said. “You didn’t know if they had other things that were planned.”

Lockley, who served as US Marshal in Tallahassee for more than nine years, is retired now.

It’s hard to believe, he says, that it’s been 20 years since 9/11.

“I think that was the impact of that is that this is bringing this on American soil now. So it hit home.”

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https://news.yahoo.com/three-witness...023355944.html

Three witnesses to the 9/11 Pentagon attack tell their stories

David Martin
September 11, 2021·2 min read

Witnesses recall 9/11 attack on Pentagon 20 years later

Sean Boger was one of the few people at the Pentagon who saw the plane coming in so low it took down a street light.

"I just looked up and, you know, a plane was flying directly at us," he said.

He said it was just 10 to 15 seconds before the plane hit the building.

"I just couldn't believe something that big could be flying that low and flying directly at us," he reiterated.

Boger was in the control tower for the Pentagon's helipad when he saw the plane, which was flying at 530 mph, loaded with 7,000 gallons of jet fuel and carrying 59 people.

He said when the plane hit, it sounded "like someone sawing medal, so you can hear the medal grinding through the concrete."

It was Sheila Moody's first day at the Pentagon, and her office was on the outer ring of the building directly in the path of the plane.

She said it sounded like "an explosion, like a bomb. When I opened my eyes there was a fireball just passing right beside me."

She looked around, realized she was trapped and thought "I'm going to die. I'm going to die here," she said.

Of the 46 people in her office, she was one of only three to survive."I remember praying, like, 'God, I don't believe you brought me here for me to die like this,'" she said. "And that's when I heard a fire extinguisher."

First responders were making their way into the building."All my breath was gone and I'm doubled over and I'm coughing," she said. "There's some movement, and I reach out through the smoke, and there was just a hand on the other side of the smoke and he just grabbed me and pulled me through."

The hand belonged to an Army ranger named Chris Bramen. He rescued three people, but Shiela Moody is the only one who lived. After the building collapsed, Bramen labored for 60 hours straight searching the ruins for bodies. He recovered 63 — exactly one third of all the people who died that day at the Pentagon."My rule was the bodies were never to touch the ground again because they died with honor and they were going to go out with honor," he said.

Before entering the building for the first time, Bramen had asked God to give him strength. Who's to say what guided him to Sheila Moody?"I prayed to go in the building and she was praying to come out, and God answered both our prayers," he said.
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No plane hit the pentagon. Military and Civilian Pilots have confirmed that.
Give us the unadultrated link that proves it.

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Levi is gonna say someone ran up and dropped the aircraft remains there. That building was built like a brick shithouse. Side note, they are gonna tear down Wilford Hall Medical Center. Listening on the news that they can't use typical implosion tactics on it because the building was built to withstand rocket fire.

Otherwise, on to topic. According to the insurance company, it was one building. WTC was only insured per occurence or something like that. Can't remember the wording but they would only pay for one building.
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