Ukraine's Nazis

[berryberry]

Based on a recent poll done in Ukraine just out only 43% of respondents in Ukraine & 36% of Ukrainians in EU & UK disagreed with the statement “Ukraine has a widespread Nazi and/or neo-Nazi ideology”

In other words, 57% of the Ukrainian people believe that Nazi and/or Neo-Nazi ideology is widespread in Ukraine. 57%

Tell me again why we should be sending hard earned American tax dollars to this corrupt country that their own people say have a widespread Nazi problem?

[zippyboy]

Got a link to the source of that poll? Know who was surveyed? Or by whom?

It is just bold statement with bold interpretation probably needs some critical thinking and thought applied to it before fully understood.

[Big Daddy Joe]

Once again we are being misdirected, as you noticed there is no link.
And what you have is neo nazis with a small nazi political party that will never stand a chance at being elected.
The same skinhead assholes that run around this country.
And we of course have the American nazi party here too.
Remember the we will not be replaced assholes and their tiki tourch march at Charlottesville?
Those fine people!
I'm sure some of them post frequently in this very forum!

Putin was going to have his invasion no matter what it took. He want Ukraine back no matter what, so to whip the Russian populace into a frenzy he told the that Ukraine was just brimming with nazis. And nothing will whip a Russian into a frenzy faster than telling them that their neighbor is loaded with nazis hell bent on raping pillaging and killing Russians.
With shades of WW2 dancing in their heads, of course they would demand action!
But Putin only tells them what he want them to know, there is no more of a free press in Russia that there are free and fair elections!

It's all bullshit designed to support their views as everything on here is!
Lie distract whine!
This is today's sandbox!
And the Azov battalion is getting all the shit jobs and performing well in every assignment it is given.
And credit where credit is due they are good and hard fighters and the last I heard they haven't tried to shove anyone into an oven!
Nore is the majority of the Azov battalion nazis, they were first made into a national guard unit, then they were dispersed into other units!
What is being over looked here in this post is that it is one of the costs of freedom that you will have oppositions parties of all sorts, and you may not agree with them. So Ukraine was practicing freedom, in spite of all the obsticals of the previous administration.
And of course it is being overlooked Tha zelensky is a jew!
So whats a jew doing running a nazi led country?

We have our neo nazis too!
And what is actually in the Ukraine is a bunch of skinheads, just as Poland has theirs Canada has theirs and so do we!
Along with the crappy little nazi parties to go along with them so they too have someone to vote for!
The chance of them becoming successful at being elected, either her or Ukraine probably about the same as the orange turds!

Originally Posted by zippyboy

Got a link to the source of that poll? Know who was surveyed? Or by whom?

It is just bold statement with bold interpretation probably needs some critical thinking and thought applied to it before fully understood.

[1pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy Joe

Once again we are being misdirected, as you noticed there is no link.
And what you have is neo nazis with a small nazi political party that will never stand a chance at being elected.
The same skinhead assholes that run around this country.
And we of course have the American nazi party here too.
Remember the we will not be replaced assholes and their tiki tourch march at Charlottesville?
Those fine people!
I'm sure some of them post frequently in this very forum!

Excellent point. I remember when one of those tiki torch Nazis ran over a bunch of people with his car and killed one of them.

Berry, do you have more information about this so called poll? Why are your posts typically devoid of links?

[Big Daddy Joe]

Actually that's not true, he often dose post links.
It is always some right wing conspiracy theory trash site that no reasonable person would read.
But only if he feels it maked his point.

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

Excellent point. I remember when one of those tiki torch Nazis ran over a bunch of people with his car and killed one of them.

Berry, do you have more information about this so called poll? Why are your posts typically devoid of links?

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by zippyboy

Got a link to the source of that poll? Know who was surveyed? Or by whom?

It is just bold statement with bold interpretation probably needs some critical thinking and thought applied to it before fully understood.

Poll was conducted by VoxUkraine, an independent analytical platform that helps Ukraine move into the future. They focus on economics, governance, social developments and reforms.

Target audience: Ukrainians aged 18-70 residing in Ukraine or abroad (Poland, Czech Republic, Germany, United Kingdom, Spain, Italy, France, Slovakia, and others).

Survey dates: May 26 – June 7, 2023.

Survey methods: online interviews on the CBR Point panel, telephone interviews, and online interviews.

Sample: 1,466 respondents from Ukraine and 327 respondents from abroad.

For the sample of Ukrainians in Ukraine, quotas were established based on gender, age, region, and type of settlement, proportional to the population structure (taking into account migration in the context of the full-scale invasion). Quotas for Ukrainians abroad were established based on the country of residence, proportional to the share of refugees in that country, as well as the region where they resided in Ukraine before going abroad.

Respondents evaluated a set of pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian statements on a 7-point scale, indicating how much they believed each statement corresponded to reality. They also assessed the frequency of encountering corresponding narratives in the information space over the past month.

[zippyboy]

Thanks for the information.

I'll have to dig a little more into it, but I might be mistaken but isn't the results opposite to what you are saying where they are actually saying they don't agree that there is a lot of Nazi ideology? Either way the percentage is higher than you would hope to see, but the wording of the question and results are not as clear as they could be - maybe a result of translation of the question.

Reading comprehension was never my strongest trait

[Big Daddy Joe]

It doesn't surprise me in the least that a good portion of the Ukrainian population would beleive what this poll says. Ukraine is on the Russian border. I'm sure Putin is making sure that they more than their fair share of Russian propaganda pumped into those homes.
They Share a common border it is easy to do and a no brainer for him.
If your told something long enough it becomes truth.

Originally Posted by berryberry

Based on a recent poll done in Ukraine just out only 43% of respondents in Ukraine & 36% of Ukrainians in EU & UK disagreed with the statement “Ukraine has a widespread Nazi and/or neo-Nazi ideology”

In other words, 57% of the Ukrainian people believe that Nazi and/or Neo-Nazi ideology is widespread in Ukraine. 57%

Tell me again why we should be sending hard earned American tax dollars to this corrupt country that their own people say have a widespread Nazi problem?

[matchingmole]

Fortunately we are funding people who are fighting against the Russian Nazis and Fascists ..... Orcs suck!!

[Big Daddy Joe]

Originally Posted by matchingmole

Fortunately we are funding people who are fighting against the Russian Nazis and Fascists ..... Orcs suck!!

Yessir!

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by matchingmole

Fortunately we are funding people who are fighting against the Russian Nazis and Fascists ..... Orcs suck!!

Nope - the US is wasting hardearned taxpayer money to fund actual Nazi's and a corrupt fascist dictator

[HDGristle]

https://voxukraine.org/en/rashism-or...e-the-new-nazi

https://voxukraine.org/en/manipulati...schland-kurier

https://voxukraine.org/en/the-abilit...inion-research

Cherrypicking your preferred propaganda doesn't work as well when someone else has the receipts, berry.

You left out key context. As usual.