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Old 09-09-2022, 02:34 PM   #31
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LOL The reason I don't read that garbage is because I prefer not to be ill informed and brainwashed.

The bottom line is that Braddock went five full years without a murder under Fetterman. Here's a question you can't answer, when was the last time that Braddock went five years without a murder before 2006? As I've said, any reasonable person who knows a bit about the recent history of Braddock would consider that to be a success.


Oh, BTW, if you want to talk about crime, the homicide rate for the United States rose by around 20% during Trump's time in office!
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:44 PM   #32
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Actually, Berry... McCormick was the type of candidate that had centrist appeal.

Local boy vs local boy, Fetterman would have had to run on record rather than chew up Oz as an out-of-touch, carpetbagger trying to use fame to buy an election in a state he has no real ties to.

McCormick had the local ties, the military history and a reasonably moderate establishment Republican career.

He wasn't the flashy outsider focused on style rather than substance.

You don't understand what appeals to me because you're so far right you think I actually support Fetterman.

I don't. And I say that as someone whose met him in person on several occasions. He's a really nice dude with a lot of passion who wants to do what he thinks is right. He's wrong for PA.

But Oz is also wrong for PA. He should have run against JD Vance and the right would be ahead in OH and PA. Instead we have the current clusterfuck in races that should have been blowouts from start to finish.

Peter Thiel, Donald Trump and Rick Scott have done more to fuck up this election cycle and risk that double control you crave than you'll ever admit to.

Masters. Wrong
Oz. Wrong
Vance. Wrong
Walker. Wrong

None of these races should be close let alone skewing blue.
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:46 PM   #33
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LOL The reason I don't read that garbage is because I prefer not to be ill informed and brainwashed.

The bottom line is that Braddock went five full years without a murder under Fetterman. Here's a question you can't answer, when was the last time that Braddock went five years without a murder before 2006? As I've said, any reasonable person who knows a bit about the recent history of Braddock would consider that to be a success.


Oh, BTW, if you want to talk about crime, the homicide rate for the United States rose by around 20% during Trump's time in office!
Reading comprehension - try it.

This thread is about Skyrocketing crime in Braddock while Sloth Fetterman was mayor. You are simply trying to cherrypick one particular crime and ignore all the rest . The bottom line is under Sloth Fetterman's watch, crime skyrocketed & the town of Braddock's population declined. In the 1st year in over a decade that Fetterman wasn't mayor, Braddock's crime rate dropped 61%. Fetterman would make Pennsylvania MORE dangerous and LESS safe.

Fetterman, who served as Braddock mayor from 2006 through 2018, oversaw crime surges as well as a declining population despite repeatedly promising to attract new residents and revitalize the area.

Data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) shows violent crime, specifically, began spiking between 2013 and 2018. In 2017, violent crime peaked as the number of reports to local police quadrupled compared to 2006.

Similarly, robberies in the area surged in 2017 along with property crimes, burglaries, larceny-theft, and motorcycle vehicle theft. All property crimes saw a surge from 2017 through 2019.

In most cases, crime in Braddock actually dropped back down to its historical levels after Fetterman left the mayor’s office to become the state’s lieutenant governor.

Braddock’s crime rate, according to City-Data.com, is higher than nearly 60 percent of American cities. In 2019, the first year in over a decade that Fetterman was not mayor, the town’s crime rate dropped by 61 percent.
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:53 PM   #34
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As I suspected you couldn't answer the question. Murder is a pretty important crime to consider.


The murder rate for the United States increased by around 20% during Trump's time in office. That's a pretty big failure on his part.
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Old 09-09-2022, 04:06 PM   #35
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... Did crime go UP or not while Fetterman was on?

Surely seem like a simple question to answer.
Yes - it went up... Or No - it didn't.

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Old 09-09-2022, 05:40 PM   #36
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Actually, Berry... McCormick was the type of candidate that had centrist appeal.

Local boy vs local boy, Fetterman would have had to run on record rather than chew up Oz as an out-of-touch, carpetbagger trying to use fame to buy an election in a state he has no real ties to.

McCormick had the local ties, the military history and a reasonably moderate establishment Republican career.

He wasn't the flashy outsider focused on style rather than substance.

You don't understand what appeals to me because you're so far right you think I actually support Fetterman.

I don't. And I say that as someone whose met him in person on several occasions. He's a really nice dude with a lot of passion who wants to do what he thinks is right. He's wrong for PA.

But Oz is also wrong for PA. He should have run against JD Vance and the right would be ahead in OH and PA. Instead we have the current clusterfuck in races that should have been blowouts from start to finish.

Peter Thiel, Donald Trump and Rick Scott have done more to fuck up this election cycle and risk that double control you crave than you'll ever admit to.

Masters. Wrong
Oz. Wrong
Vance. Wrong
Walker. Wrong

None of these races should be close let alone skewing blue.
First - You are the one who is missing the point. as I stated:

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I would have preferred a different, much more conservative candidate to Oz
IMO McCormick is more conservative than Oz.

But the fact that you reject Oz and destroys your credibility stating you are a right leaning moderate. Then the fact that you are essentially supporting Fetterman (even though you now say he is wrong for PA) by not voting for Oz just utterly shreds your claim of being a right leaning moderate.

The election comes down to two choices. Saying you will vote for neither is a vote for far left Fetterman.

Second - Masters and JD Vance are just the type of principled conservatives we need in Washington.
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Old 09-09-2022, 05:43 PM   #37
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As I suspected you couldn't answer the question. Murder is a pretty important crime to consider.

Once again - Reading comprehension - try it.

This thread is about Skyrocketing crime in Braddock while Sloth Fetterman was mayor. You are simply trying to cherrypick one particular crime and ignore all the rest . The bottom line is under Sloth Fetterman's watch, crime skyrocketed & the town of Braddock's population declined. In the 1st year in over a decade that Fetterman wasn't mayor, Braddock's crime rate dropped 61%.

Do you dispute that crime skyrocketed in Braddock while Fetterman was in office and declined after he left office. Yes or No?
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Old 09-09-2022, 10:12 PM   #38
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What we actually need are principled moderates
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