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06-22-2022, 10:05 AM
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Stock moves
So, with all the up-heave in the market place- I was looking to start a civil discussion on where ppl are moving stocks in the short or long term. I've moved a few of my sub 20.00 dollar holdings out and into higher dividend yielding holdings, and a few in the oil and gas sector, but feel those likely will not be long term interests. I like AR, CLR, and chevron, but wanted to get some input from any other's as to where you are targeting?
REITs?
Bonds?
short plays?
Long plays?
Shorts?
What you got?
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06-22-2022, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by eyecu2
So, with all the up-heave in the market place- I was looking to start a civil discussion on where ppl are moving stocks in the short or long term. I've moved a few of my sub 20.00 dollar holdings out and into higher dividend yielding holdings, and a few in the oil and gas sector, but feel those likely will not be long term interests. I like AR, CLR, and chevron, but wanted to get some input from any other's as to where you are targeting?
REITs?
Bonds?
short plays?
Long plays?
Shorts?
What you got?
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These are the stocks I own, ABML, ALLY, ARCC, BAC, DCP, ECC, HAL, JPM, METV, NAVI, NRZ, OXLC, PYPL, SYN,T, WBD.
I usually buy long term, 3 to 5 year hold.
I usually buy option (LEAPS) for my short term trading, holding, F, Ally, and to my regret TLRY.
I prefer dividend paying stocks, But will buy anything. lates buys were Hal, DCP.
Watching; GT, VALE, KRP, FTAI, KOF, PARA to name a few.
I highly recommend I-Bonds, from the treasury,( inflation protected )currently, paying 9.62% for six months if bought by Sept 30th.
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06-22-2022, 04:38 PM
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Moved to the correct forum
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06-22-2022, 04:45 PM
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Join Date: Sep 26, 2021
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Originally Posted by eyecu2
So, with all the up-heave in the market place- I was looking to start a civil discussion on where ppl are moving stocks in the short or long term. I've moved a few of my sub 20.00 dollar holdings out and into higher dividend yielding holdings, and a few in the oil and gas sector, but feel those likely will not be long term interests. I like AR, CLR, and chevron, but wanted to get some input from any other's as to where you are targeting?
REITs?
Bonds?
short plays?
Long plays?
Shorts?
What you got?
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... JMichael might have some good ideas there, mate.
The onley advice that I'll give - is to BE CAUTIOUS.
### Salty
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06-22-2022, 07:28 PM
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IBonds when inflation is high. I have an adviser and I’m fucked even my bond funds. You have to stay pat now if you didn’t get out. I have cash at Ally Bank .90% right now and will go up most banks pay like .03%
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06-23-2022, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by eyecu2
So, with all the up-heave in the market place- I was looking to start a civil discussion on where ppl are moving stocks in the short or long term. I've moved a few of my sub 20.00 dollar holdings out and into higher dividend yielding holdings, and a few in the oil and gas sector, but feel those likely will not be long term interests. I like AR, CLR, and chevron, but wanted to get some input from any other's as to where you are targeting?
REITs?
Bonds?
short plays?
Long plays?
Shorts?
What you got?
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I will preface this with saying I don't think this is the best place to get investment advice (there are good investment forums / sites) and people need to do their own research on any names mentioned.
I own too many to name. But in general I have been taking some profits the last 6 months and am now sitting on more cash than I have been for a long time. Now I am still well invested but instead of keeping x amount of cash for opportunities that arise, I am probably 4 times that amount. So I am practicing patience given the state of the economy
As to what, well that is going to depend on each individual, their stage in life, risk tolerance level, size of a nest egg, etc. That is why just tossing out names is dangerous. For me, I have been heavily focused on growing dividend income the last 10 years or so. Hence I own in no particular order
* REITS
* BDCs
* A few Energy related stocks (EPD, EVA, OKE, CVX)
* A very healthy allocation to different individual preferred stocks
* A few baby bonds
* Solid Dividend Paying Dividend Aristocrats
* A few higher yielding more risky dividend payors
Basically if it doesn't pay me a dividend or interest, I don't own it
I make opportune buys as they present themselves (like recently when certain investment grade preferreds hit a certain yield) but not sure there is any I could recommend now as these buying opportunities come and go as preferreds are more thinly traded
I did start some very small positions in ARE, PLD and LNC this week (first 2 are quality reits that have sold off a lot) but I am not confident they have finished selling off or not - so I just took a starter position. SPG is another reit that is attractive after selling off but I own enough of it from when I bought it during the covid crash. Finally I have started watching AVGO which has now dipped to around $500/ share after I sold my covid crash position in it at the end of December at $671. It's one I want to own again but it still could drop more if the market keeps tanking so if I add, it will be in small amounts now
As far as I-Bonds go, yes the yield is a great rate now for no risk. But you do lock yourself into a holding period of at least one year (and if held less than 5 years you forfeit the last 3 months of interest) and you are limited to $10K a year per person (you can squeeze a bit more if you take your income tax return in a paper I-bond). Depending on the size of your portfolio, the $10K annual limit may not make them worthwhile. That said they are attractive to park cash right now and I moved some funds that were part of my safe cash equivalent allocation and bought some I-bond both last October and this past January since they would have just been in lower yielding cash equivalents
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06-23-2022, 12:22 AM
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IBonds when inflation is high. I have an adviser and I’m fucked even my bond funds. You have to stay pat now if you didn’t get out. I have cash at Ally Bank .90% right now and will go up most banks pay like .03%
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Chase - depending on how long you plan to hold that cash, you may want to consider two other options
1. Bask Bank rates are up to 1.61% compared to Ally's .90%
2. If you don't think you need the funds for 9 to 12 months, the Treasury market has been jacked lately and you can buy US T-Bills on the secondary market (at least you can at Fidelity) yielding around 2.84% for 9 months and 3% for 12 months (obviously the rates fluctuate daily)
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06-23-2022, 11:18 AM
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I will preface this with saying I don't think this is the best place to get investment advice (there are good investment forums / sites) and people need to do their own research on any names mentioned.
Dang berry, you sound like a lawyer at the end of a commercial. Personal don't think this is a place to get ANY advice on anything.
But to continue the discussion, what does everyone think of advisors.
personal I thing 90% of them are not wort the paper they push.
My reasoning; if they were that good they wouldn't need to be working, giving advice, they would follow their own and become rich.
If you have an advisor who only "advises", for a living and only make any money when you make money, please PM Her/His contact information to me
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06-24-2022, 05:38 AM
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Join Date: Feb 21, 2019
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Chase - depending on how long you plan to hold that cash, you may want to consider two other options
1. Bask Bank rates are up to 1.61% compared to Ally's .90%
2. If you don't think you need the funds for 9 to 12 months, the Treasury market has been jacked lately and you can buy US T-Bills on the secondary market (at least you can at Fidelity) yielding around 2.84% for 9 months and 3% for 12 months (obviously the rates fluctuate daily)
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Thank you I’ll look into Bask. Ally just went to 1%, they are a very easy bank to deal with very good service if needed.
Synchrony Bank is paying 1.9%.
I look at it this way. My adviser charges me 1% Ally 1% that’s 2.
An advisor is a waste.She has me in 10 mutual funds and let’s them all ride, I can do that, oh well lm lazy.
She’s averaged me 7% now down to 4% thanks to sickening liberals.
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06-24-2022, 09:22 AM
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Join Date: Jan 13, 2017
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I remember back in the 80s, telling my Dad he should buy stock in those new companies- Microsoft & Apple. He said NO, because "No one needs computers. Its a fad". Google goes public, I said he should buy stock in that, he said No, why would you buy stock in a search engine? He swore his Westinghouse stock was gonna soar someday. His investment advice to me, when I was a kid was, Get a job that has a pension plan. Note to past self- Don't take financial advice from your parents.
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06-24-2022, 11:35 AM
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Join Date: Nov 11, 2012
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Originally Posted by Chase7
Thank you I’ll look into Bask. Ally just went to 1%, they are a very easy bank to deal with very good service if needed.
Synchrony Bank is paying 1.9%.
I look at it this way. My adviser charges me 1% Ally 1% that’s 2.
An advisor is a waste.She has me in 10 mutual funds and let’s them all ride, I can do that, oh well lm lazy.
She’s averaged me 7% now down to 4% thanks to sickening liberals.
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Yeah, in general I believe an advisor is a waste. Anyone worth their salt if they were that good, would not have to work as an advisor. As you note, most will put you in a mix of mutual funds. For most people who think they need assistance they would be far better off buying a mix of a handful of very low cost /low expense ratio Vanguard mutual funds. You will likely get better performance and save on costs.
For example - depending on where one is age wise, risk tolerance wise, etc most people if you are not an active investor would be best served in something like this
30% - 50% An S&P 500 Index Fund
20% - 30% An Extended Market Index Fund
10% - 20% A Balanced Active Fund like Vanguard Wellington Fund
10% - 15% A European or Overseas Index Fund
0% - 5% An Emerging Market Fund
10% - 30% A Bond Index Fund
Or if one is not comfortable with that, just put it all in a Target Retirement Fund matching your age
I have always managed my own money and used to manage large sums in an endowment fund at my last employer before retiring early - and I know I can execute my strategy and generate better returns than any advisor could for me (I focus mainly on individual equities).
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