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[paintedbynumbers]

This is exactly what I've been saying. I've had 4 other guys message me that they received points yet Dreamgirl with her comments received none. It is ridiculous. Maybe now the mods see this and realize that there are indeed issues that need to be addressed. The constant trolling by the same 2 providers is a joke. Nobody likes it when Tatts does it and it's the same thing with Dreamgirl.

Again if the males are getting points for voicing our opinions so should the females. Call a spade a spade and we can move on.

Also Dreamgirl telling me which forum I should post on is laughable. You come here trying to drum up business and it's going to do the exact opposite. Mark my words. If people were banging down your door to meet you you wouldn't be posting as much nonsense as you do.

It's a fucking shame that I have to worry about how many points I will get before I send a post. Or whether I should use private tags or not.

And I get it most mods are good. DJ and Dr. have explained things well to me in the past. But it should also be noted that we are not kids we are adults. Tossing out points to guys responding to insults when the person throwing out insults walks away scott free is absolute bullshit and it needs to be addressed. We all agree on that.

I've had multiple guys tell me they are going to hammer down the report button until things change. It shouldn't come down to that. The job of a mod shouldn't be difficult or filled with stress. But if points are going to be dealt it should be done in a fair and universal way.

I've said my peace now, lets see if things change for the better or for the worse.

Originally Posted by blckstuff412

[bambino]

https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php...post&t=2782767

Doesn’t look like the same “10” posters in this review. Some I’ve never seen post before. Many guys lurk. They read the reviews and the HoFo in them. I’ve fielded many PMs from guys I don’t know looking for HoFo. The same “10” poster remark is gibberish. Same thing happened on Indys. A group of posters and lots of lurkers.

[bkfantasy]

2 things killed the hobby scene in Pittsburgh: SA and Opioids

Maybe not in that order. You can get more specific, but whatever other reasons you might have, they probably ultimately trace back to those 2 broad reasons.

The mods have an impossible job. It seems like the direction from above the mods changes frequently. So I appreciate the difficult spot they are often in.

If you don't want to get reported for responding to trolls, then simply ignore them. That's my advice to both sides. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND TO EVERY TIT WITH YOUR TAT. Who cares really? It's a hooker board. Now everybody, let's go out and get laid (and report back!)

[tolstoy]

Originally Posted by Chase7

How many different people posted on this thread, isn’t that oblivious about people posting. I will guess if your new to the site, you post something and your put down for your post you may not post again, simple as that.

That is Berry Berry's whole act. Telling guys (and particularly new guys) that they have no credibility unless they have posted reviews. He did it to the poster RC1001 on the first page of this thread. Go back and read it....

Anyone here wonder why there has been no "new blood" posting on this site in years? It's because of guys like Berry Berry posting his "Berry Berry's Rules For Reviews!" and other inane bullshit...

When I read the public reviews of this site, all the "COPS" and Benny Hill-style encounters, I don't think to myself "Yeah! I want to see more of THOSE girls! The Listcrawler girls! And post reviews of them! Berry Berry says THAT is the way to credibility on this board! He really knows what he is talking about!" No, I don't read the reviews section and think that at all. I want to do the OPPOSITE of what Berry Berry thinks is the norm. HE is the reason there has been not any "new blood" on this board in years. Guys like RC1001 post on this thread and Berry Berry posts his tired "Reviews required, Sir!" and "Berry Berry's Rules For Reviews!" bullshit.....

Everyone ask yourself why the same dozen or so guys have posted on this board for the past 10 years, and there has not been any "new blood" posting. And why exactly two (2) providers post regularly. It's because of guys like Berry Berry and all his toxic bullshit. It's that simple....

[paintedbynumbers]

I disagree with some of what you said Tolstoy.

I feel like the reason only 2 providers post here is because providers no longer have the option to post ads. This alone drove many of the girls off. Heatherlicious used to post she no longer does. A few others that I recall as well would pop in and out.

The other thing is social media. The girls can use that to their advantage. Or simply stated they can post on Tryst or Listcrawler and have the guys respond to their ads the same way they did so on here and Indys in the past. Hell they can still ask for their Eccie handle and look at some of their reviews/posts if need be or simply ask for vouches.

I don't think guys scared off the providers, I think the rules did.

[tolstoy]

Originally Posted by paintedbynumbers

I disagree with some of what you said Tolstoy.

I feel like the reason only 2 providers post here is because providers no longer have the option to post ads. This alone drove many of the girls off. Heatherlicious used to post she no longer does. A few others that I recall as well would pop in and out.

The other thing is social media. The girls can use that to their advantage. Or simply stated they can post on Tryst or Listcrawler and have the guys respond to their ads the same way they did so on here and Indys in the past. Hell they can still ask for their Eccie handle and look at some of their reviews/posts if need be or simply ask for vouches.

I don't think guys scared off the providers, I think the rules did.

Providers posted all over the Co Ed Vouched and "Behind The Woodshed" sections of Indys, and even providers who never posted ads. And I never read any quantum "Providers have too much power here!" interpretation of the review system of Indys like Berry Berry and Bambino read it. I read DG's and Morgan's posts on this site and don't have any "involved" reading of their posts like many guys do. I don't have any problems with any of their posts. I guess that is just me....

It's not just providers who don't post here. For some reason scores of ASPD and Indys hobbyist never gravitated to this site. New guys don't post because Berry Berry chimes in with his "Reviews Required!" bullshit. He did it to the new guy RC1001 on the first page of this thread. There is ONE reason this site has a fraction of the posting traffic that the old ASPD and Indys had. It's because of guys like Berry Berry spewing his "Rules For Reviews!" nonsense and apparently "getting away with it"....

[paintedbynumbers]

See I think that posts from guys like Tatts or the trolling from Dreamgirl and Morgan are what is keeping guys away. Berry has a point too though as far as reviews go. Every one has to earn their access on a site like this. Some guys lurk and don't review or say anything. I did that for years I admit it. There are probably hundreds of guys on this site (not just Pittsburgh) that lurk and use the info given to their advantage. Can't fault them for it.

Are people timid or shy and not wanting to get backlash on their first post? Sure. To say there are no new posters though. I can name a few. Albedo is newer he reviews, Myself, and at least 2-3 others in the AMP section alone.

[CryptKicker]

Be aware that you have no way of truly knowing if someone has been given points or not. You can't see their points and someone that is banned is not always due to points. A member can PM you or post on the board that they did or did not get points and you have no way of knowing if they are being truthful or not.

[paintedbynumbers]

Can this be changed then?

Not sure what is to gain from someone going out of their way to PM me to say they received points especially when it's multiple people.

Or the opposite with Dreamgirl here chiming in that she received no points. Especially when a mod such as yourself could easily respond and say that isn't true if in fact she did receive points.

A lot of people are seemingly upset by who gets and who (seemingly) doesn't get points. Why not make it visible for everyone? We are all adults here.

Originally Posted by CryptKicker

Be aware that you have no way of truly knowing if someone has been given points or not. You can't see their points and someone that is banned is not always due to points. A member can PM you or post on the board that they did or did not get points and you have no way of knowing if they are being truthful or not.

[pittlicker]

Originally Posted by CryptKicker

Be aware that you have no way of truly knowing if someone has been given points or not. You can't see their points and someone that is banned is not always due to points. A member can PM you or post on the board that they did or did not get points and you have no way of knowing if they are being truthful or not.

Who would lie about getting points?

[CryptKicker]

It's no one's business who does or does not get points. Members can and do claim one way or the other to move a particular agenda. We are not going to make points visible to other members or comment on who has or has not received them.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by paintedbynumbers

Can this be changed then?

Not sure what is to gain from someone going out of their way to PM me to say they received points especially when it's multiple people.

Or the opposite with Dreamgirl here chiming in that she received no points. Especially when a mod such as yourself could easily respond and say that isn't true if in fact she did receive points.

A lot of people are seemingly upset by who gets and who (seemingly) doesn't get points. Why not make it visible for everyone? We are all adults here.

Indys used to post how many points you had above your avatar. If you reached 10, you were banned. Not sure that’s a great idea. Lots of baiting happens. I prefer infractions stay private.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by tolstoy

That is Berry Berry's whole act. Telling guys (and particularly new guys) that they have no credibility unless they have posted reviews.

Please save your personal attacks for someone else

As to reviews - the main purpose of this site is to exchange information on providers a client may want to see or avoid. The more people who contribute reviews and other hofo, the better. Those who don't and just take information without contributing any themselves are not benefiting other members here

[blkstocking]

I usually think Tolstoy has some good points.
However, I disagree on a few points and I think I need to clarify, some of which I think I read from others.

I think there are quite a large number of people here that were on ASPD and Indys. I came here right after ASPD finally went down and ECCIE started up. We were still on Indys, but lets face it, that was about who would suck up to whom. Was that 2010? 2009? I know quite a number of people here are from the "old days."

I think the mods on Indys were always biased and played favorites. It wasnt popular for the discussions or the reviews. It was popular because it had a robust photo gallery AND a place to book with providers AND there were always new providers being recruited.

A lot of guys there and here are, and always have been, on multiple boards. Just like we are now. I was a mod on a board. There are others here that served as mods. We know its a thankless job. But it doesnt have to be so...obviously jaded.

How many boards are we members of.... people mention them all the time. TER, SA, USA, etc... So its not just this board, its the hobby environment for PA has changed.

There are more than a dozen posters. Yes, some guys roast more than others. However, to be fair, they are indiscriminate roasters. They will blast anyone they disagree with. Fine, get over it. They are NOT the reasons only 2 providers post here.

By the way, more than 2 providers post here. I keep most of them blocked. I dont care to interact with the antagonistic manner I read in some of them. They post and cause drama. I think its a marketing ploy. It keeps some girls away and that lessens competition. Intentional or not, Gabi pioneered it and it works. Even if I am wrong, 20 year olds in this profession dont want to type, or talk, in more than 32 characters. They dont want to interact because they are not paid to do so. Too much bs, no reward.

Just wanted to put some of this on the discussion.

[blkstocking]

Originally Posted by pittlicker

Who would lie about getting points?

You might be surprised at what people will lie about... anything and anytime. Wierd.