$ 16,752 electric bill

[Russ38]

Originally Posted by Russ38

Should’ve went with balanced billing.....

Originally Posted by VitaMan

Get a fixed contract.....pay a little more with no risk.

No change in my shit....same bill I pay every month....fuck’em, they should’ve made better life choices......

[VitaMan]

Texas attorney general sues Griddy for electric bills......which they only passed on the gas cost enforced by the PUC.


Griddy files bankruptcy......that didn't take long.


Another great series of events brought on by goverment agencies.

[pxmcc]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

Texas attorney general sues Griddy for electric bills......which they only passed on the gas cost enforced by the PUC.


Griddy files bankruptcy......that didn't take long.


Another great series of events brought on by goverment agencies.

who the hell designed a grid system where in a rocky month the occupants in a 2 bedroom condo can almost freeze to death and still get a 10k electric bill? talk about price gouging..

[boardman]

Originally Posted by pxmcc

who the hell designed a grid system where in a rocky month the occupants in a 2 bedroom condo can almost freeze to death and still get a 10k electric bill? talk about price gouging..

P.T. Barnum?

[VitaMan]

At another time, they used to call it war profiteering.....a felony ?


But it is okay for the government to do it......lotto anyone ?

[boardman]

War profiteering comes during war time. The term is non applicable.


General profiteering would be more accurate but that's not what happened in this instance.

In the beginning it looked like people were getting hosed because they made poor decisions regarding their electricity providers...But those people signed the contracts so they are assumed to have known what they were getting into. It's not profiteering.

Since it became such a big issue it's now coming out that billing mistakes were made. OK, maybe there were billing mistakes that are being corrected but my guess is these wholesalers are making backroom deals to bring the costs down in order to keep the heat off.



Profiteering is selling a $6 case of water for $100 because people are thirsty and you are the only one with water. I'm not sure that's a felony although it may get you a visit from the state AG. Advertising that case of water for $100 and then refusing to sell it for less than $150 would actually probably land a profiteer in more hot water.


I've bought lottery tickets from time to time. Not one single time has anyone held a gun to my head, twisted my arm or in any other way coerced me to do it. IJS

[VitaMan]

Another screwed up Texas governmental agency is the workforce commission. Some people they give $ 2,000 monthly payments to that have never worked. Other people that need help takes them months to respond and months to make a decision. They say they are overwhelmed with requests and applications.....which is true. Maybe that is what the private sector should start using as as excuse too.

[VitaMan]

"I've bought lottery tickets from time to time. Not one single time has anyone held a gun to my head, twisted my arm or in any other way coerced me to do it."


Missed the point on this.....gambling used to be classified as a vice by the government....until they were able to make money off it

[boardman]

[pxmcc]

Originally Posted by boardman

P.T. Barnum?

you are correct sir..

[bigstickdave6969]

I just got my electric bill. $41 for the whole house lol.

[gnadfly]

Got mine too. Lowest in 13 months.

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by pxmcc

did the PUC give a clear explanation of possible downsides of the plan to its customers that wasn't written in legal jargon that only lawyers understand, and 7 point font? that's called disclosure of material terms of the contract that PUC-or its authorized agents-should provide to its customers who were in a position of unequal bargaining power. (how many non-attys can read that fine print and have any clue wtf it means?) there is a doctrine called unconscionability that applies when a contract meets all the legal requirements, but ends up in a result where a consumer gets fucked just because he didn't have the technical wherewithal to understand exactly what he was getting himself into. if it applies, courts take the contract, rip it up, and then go from there to analyze the case.

the standard is what a reasonable consumer would understand from all that fine print; not limited to what a retard would understand, but also a reasonable consumer is not held to the standard of what a legal eagle would infer. if your electric bill can fly to 9$/kWhr under the plan, that information-plausible and outrageous-must be disclosed to John Q. Consumer, as he might find that info material to his choice of what electric plan to pick, and from what company. failure to disclose as required is a material omission with some remedies provided by the law.

i don't have time to research this just for fun, as i'm not practicing, but if i was a practicing consumer law liar, i'd pull out the TX Deceptive Trade Practices Act and look for some more-than-plausible causes of action. the dtpa comes with treble damages for knowing and wilful fuckery. A jury would be all over that, as that conduct does not pass the smell test. everyone understands that a 10k bill from your electric company after your power went out and you almost froze to death is some serious fuckery, and the DTPA is all about remedies for the little guy for corporate fuckery. Texas does have some great laws, with the DTPA and consumer bankruptcy laws being among the best imo.

Customers are not signing up with the PUC, they sign up with their local providers. I looked into variable rate years ago. If one simply looks at the paperwork it is clear that there is no cap on how high the rate can go. When I read that, and reread it I stayed where I was.