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The First Case of COVID-19 in the US Treated with Remdesivir Was in late January – Two Weeks Later China Was Mass Producing the Drug – The Firm Gilead Sciences and Dr. Fauci Are In the Middle
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Fauci continues to push for social distancing. If he were trying to make money off of the drug, you would think he would be for the exact opposite. He would push a policy that would result with more infections, if he were really looking to make money.
what else would he say now? he's backed himself into a corner anyway so now all he has is social distancing. remember this is the guy that said in mid January this wasn't a big concern. then he gets on the "millions will die" alarmist band wagon, after Trump stopped travel. and here he is in early MARCH saying most people don't need masks.
FLASHBACK MARCH 2020: Fauci Says "There's No Reason To Be Walking Around With A Mask"
let's see what "wonder drug" happens to appear to save us all from this virus. then who backed it and who profits from it.
one thing that gets swept away in reports on this is that there have been at least 7 of this similar group of coronavirus going back to the 1960's. most of the 7 are now seasonal and mild. there are 4 that are now seasonal. a few others have run their course. regardless if this strain becomes persistent history also shows them to become milder and less infectious overall.
the article goes into much more depth if you are so inclined to read it. i took the two outlines and odds as summaries. either way this does not look like the great death plague it was feared to be.
next "flu season" the world should ban travel to and from China and go about it's merry way.
It’s still possible that quarantines and travel bans will first halt the outbreak and then eradicate the microbe, and the world will never see 2019-nCoV again, as epidemiologist Dr. Mike Ryan, head of health emergencies at the World Health Organization, told STAT on Saturday. That’s what happened with SARS in 2003.
Many experts, however, view that happy outcome as increasingly unlikely. “Independent self-sustaining outbreaks [of 2019-nCoV] in major cities globally could become inevitable because of substantial exportation of pre-symptomatic cases,” scientists at the University of Hong Kong concluded in a paper published in The Lancet last week.
Experts see two possibilities, each with unique consequences:
Just another coronavirus
2019-nCoV joins the four coronaviruses now circulating in people. “I can imagine a scenario where this becomes a fifth endemic human coronavirus,” said Stephen Morse of Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health, an epidemiologist and expert on emerging infectious diseases. “We don’t pay much attention to them because they’re so mundane,” especially compared to seasonal flu.
Although little-known outside health care and virology circles, the current four “are already part of the winter-spring seasonal landscape of respiratory disease,” Adalja said. Two of them, OC43 and 229E, were discovered in the 1960s but had circulated in cows and bats, respectively, for centuries. The others, HKU1 and NL63, were discovered after the 2003-2004 SARS outbreak, also after circulating in animals. It’s not known how long they’d existed in people before scientists noticed, but since they jumped from animals to people before the era of virology, it isn’t known whether that initial jump triggered widespread disease.
On the decidedly darker side, a fifth endemic coronavirus means more sickness and death from respiratory infections.
Odds: Moderate. “I think there is a reasonable probability that this becomes the fifth community-acquired coronavirus,” Adalja said, something he expanded on in his blog. Webby agreed: “I have a little bit of hope that, OK, we’ll put up with a couple of years of heightened [2019-nCoV] activity before settling down to something like the other four coronaviruses.”
2019-nCoV returns repeatedly like a bad seasonal flu
The “seasonal” reflects the fact that viruses can’t tolerate high heat and humidity, preferring the cool and dry conditions of winter and spring, Webby said. That’s why flu, as well as the four coronaviruses, are less prevalent in warm, humid months. If the new coronavirus follows suit, then containment efforts plus the arrival of summer should drive infections to near zero.
But also like flu viruses, that doesn’t mean it’s gone.
The “bad” reflects the fact that the number of 2019-nCoV cases and deaths so far suggests that the new coronavirus has a fatality rate around 2%. That’s almost certainly an overestimate, since mild cases aren’t all being counted. But even 2% is less than SARS’ 10% and nowhere near the 37% of MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus). On the other hand, seasonal flu kills fewer than 0.1% of those it infects, though that’s still tens of thousands of deaths a year just in the U.S. The global disaster that was the 1917 “Spanish flu” pandemic killed 2.5% (though some estimates exceed 10%)
Since 2019-nCoV is new, “this first wave will be particularly bad because we have an immunologically naïve population,” Adalja said. Future waves should pass by people who were exposed (but not necessarily sickened) this time around, Morse said, “but that assumes this virus doesn’t develop the tricks of flu,” which famously tweaks the surface molecules that the immune system can see, making itself invisible to antibodies from previous exposures.
Odds: Pretty good. What we may be seeing “is the emergence of a new coronavirus … that could very well become another seasonal pathogen that causes pneumonia,” said infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm of the University of Minnesota. It would be “more than a cold” and less than SARS: “The only other pathogen I can compare it to is seasonal influenza.”
Fauci doesn't think highly of Remdesivir. he said it barely has efficacy, and only in reducing days to recovery in ill patients who are treated EARLY. keep trying..
There will never be a “cure” for any viral disease. All any medication does is treat the symptoms in order to give the patient’s immune system time to overcome the viral infection before it overcomes the patient.
If a persons immune system is not up to the task, the outlook is bleak.
Vaccines are our defense against viral infections. But then, they only work on viral infections that do not mutate on a regular basis. Your immune system must recognize the infection in order to attack it. If the mutated virus is not recognized, antibodies lay dormant.
So all of this talk of a “cure” is wishful thinking. All efforts should be put towards a vaccine. And then hope the virus isn’t smarter than we are.
A laboratory physician at the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, prepares to perform nucleic acid testing on a novel coronavirus specimen in Chongqing, China, on May 3, 2020Costfoto/Barcroft Media via Getty Images
China acknowledged that it instructed unauthorized laboratories to destroy samples of the novel coronavirus — but for "biosafety reasons."
An official with the Chinese National Health Commission said on Friday that the samples were destroyed in line with public health laws and to "prevent the risk to laboratory biological safety."
But he insisted that it was not done to cover up or hide samples from other countries — an accusation that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had previously made.
Pompeo has repeatedly attacked the Chinese Communist Party for attempting to cover up the extent of the outbreak, which has so far killed more than 88,000 people in the US alone.
The news comes as tensions between the US and China appear to be deteriorating, with the president and his administration blaming the country for having started the virus deliberately.
China has confirmed that it had ordered unauthorized laboratories to destroy samples of the new coronavirus but insisted that it was due to "biosafety reasons."
The announcement comes after Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has repeatedly said that China refused to give virus samples taken from patients infected with COVID-19 in late December last year and that officials had destroyed early samples, according to South China Morning Post.
Liu Dengfeng, an official with the Chinese National Health Commission's science and education department, said in a Beijing briefing on Friday that the samples were destroyed to "prevent the risk to laboratory biological safety and prevent secondary disasters caused by unidentified pathogens."
He insisted that this was not done to cover-up or hide samples from other countries, but was done strictly for biosafety reasons."The remarks made by some US officials were taken out of context and intended to confuse," Liu said.
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo speaks at a news conference at the State Department in Washington on April 29, 2020.Associated Press
Liu said that when the pneumonia-like disease was first reported in Wuhan, "national-level professional institutes" were working to identify the pathogen that was causing it.
"Based on comprehensive research and expert opinion, we decided to temporarily manage the pathogen causing the pneumonia as Class II – highly pathogenic – and imposed biosafety requirements on sample collection, transport, and experimental activities, as well as destroying the samples," he said.
The official said that this was standard practice in China for the handling any highly pathogenic samples.
Chinese public health laws specify that laboratories not meeting the requirements must either transfer them to a qualified depositary for safekeeping or destroy them.
Pompeo has previously attacked the Chinese Communist Party for attempting to cover up the extent of the outbreak. He has accused the country of not reporting accurate numbers and of censoring research regarding the coronavirus.
"The Chinese Communist Party tried to suppress information about this virus, about where it began, about how it started, about how it was being transmitted from human to human, indeed employed the World Health Organization to further that storyline," Pompeo told Christian radio program Focus on the Family, earlier this week, Newsweek reported.
The news comes as tensions between the US and China appear to be escalating. While Trump initially praised President Xi Jinping's response to the outbreak in January, the president and his administration have since blamed it for deliberately starting the virus.
Earlier this month, Trump suggested that China's handling of the novel coronavirus is proof that Beijing "will do anything they can" to ensure he isn't reelected in November.
