Star Trek has a lesson Bernie bros need to hear: We're not ready

[The_Waco_Kid]

Star Trek has a lesson Bernie bros need to hear: We're not ready

https://www.yahoo.com/news/star-trek...150955634.html


Chris Truax, Opinion columnist, USA TODAY Opinion 5 hours ago


After watching the Democratic cage match in Charleston this week, I am reminded, once again, that answers to so many of life’s difficult questions can be found in Star Trek.


In one episode, the crew of the Enterprise is instructed to make “first contact” with a new world, let them know that aliens exist and invite them to join The Federation. The chancellor of the planet’s government is thrilled with the idea but a traditionalist member of his cabinet is completely opposed, convinced that making this information public will destroy their culture. At the end, the traditionalist leader tries to force the chancellor to reject The Federation by attempting to kill himself and frame a member of the crew for his murder. When he eventually regains consciousness, he grabs the Chancellor’s arm and says, “Chancellor, you must not do this!” The Chancellor responds, “I know, old friend, I know.” He then explains to the Enterprise crew that, as much as he wants to take this step, it is too soon. His people just are not ready for it and that trying to do so prematurely would tear his planet apart. Someday, hopefully soon, his people would be ready for what The Federation has to offer. But not today.


The Bernie Sanders campaign is based on an idea that the data just does not support, that there are millions of invisible voters who will rise up and help Bernie throw Donald Trump out of office. The reality is that Presidential Candidate Sanders would present voters in critical, must-win states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida and Michigan with the question of who terrifies them less. And it is by no means certain that they will conclude that a committed socialist, even a democratic one, is the lesser of two evils.


But suppose Bernie did win the presidency. What then? If there is no evidence that millions of previously-unseen voters will flock to his banner, there is massive, irrefutable evidence that huge swaths of America absolutely will not. We all saw the debate and the extreme discomfort that even many Democrats have with many of Bernie’s ideas. Imagine how Independents and Republicans feel.


Even if having Senator Sanders at the top of the ticket did not put at risk the moderate Democrats who won in 2018 and return the House to Republican control, no one can possibly imagine that Bernie’s laundry list of socialist plans and government giveaways will sweep away all opposition once Bernie is sitting in the Oval Office. On the contrary, America is still fighting bitterly over Obamacare, a minor — at least compared to Bernie’s plans — tweak of the health care system that was based on what was originally a Republican idea.


Electing Bernie Sanders as president would mean war to the knife, with committed activists on both sides fighting to the (hopefully metaphorical) death with a lot of us trapped in no-man’s land and taking fire from both camps. A vote for Bernie Sanders isn’t a vote for a return to honest government and peace, it’s a vote for class war.


More: Hispanics in Nevada flocked to Bernie Sanders despite a horrible record. Why?



Many of Sanders’ most committed supporters think that’s exactly what America needs and that the only way to save America is a revolution. But none of us should be comfortable with the idea of destroying America in order to save it.


If you are a progressive activist and a Sanders supporter, I understand that you yearn for President Sanders and his re-making of America with all your heart. But I beg you. Consider the rest of us. Most of us are not ready for what Sanders would bring. After four years of Donald Trump’s efforts to fray the bonds that bind us together, we need a period of peace and healing, not a new period of even more intensive conflict. Over the next four years, we need to recapture our common ground, not seize the high ground and use our advantage to batter our enemies. Doing so would damage this country and our institutions on a scale that would dwarf what Donald Trump has done.


Even if blue America is ready for Bernie Sanders, red America is not. Purple America is not. Most of the country is not there and trying to drag it there will tear it apart. You must not do this. It is too soon. Someday, perhaps, America will be ready for what Bernie Sanders and his movement have to offer. But not today.


Chris Truax, an appellate lawyer in San Diego and a member of USA TODAY's Board of Contributors.

[Hotrod511]

I remember watching one of the movies where they went back in time to 1980's San Francisco to get the whales Kirk said they would need money and one of the crew ask "Whats That"

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Star Trek has a lesson Bernie bros need to hear: We're not ready

https://www.yahoo.com/news/star-trek...150955634.html


And it is by no means certain that they will conclude that a committed socialist, even a democratic one, is the lesser of two evils.

Why does that sound sooo familiar?


But suppose Bernie did win the presidency. What then? If there is no evidence that millions of previously-unseen voters will flock to his banner, there is massive, irrefutable evidence that huge swaths of America absolutely will not.

Electing Bernie Sanders as president would mean war to the knife, with committed activists on both sides fighting to the (hopefully metaphorical) death with a lot of us trapped in no-man’s land and taking fire from both camps. A vote for Bernie Sanders isn’t a vote for a return to honest government and peace, it’s a vote for class war.

Many of Sanders’ most committed supporters think that’s exactly what America needs and that the only way to save America is a revolution. But none of us should be comfortable with the idea of destroying America in order to save it.

Oh really? Again, that sounds sooo familiar. Why?

If you are a progressive activist and a Sanders supporter, I understand that you yearn for President Sanders and his re-making of America with all your heart.

But I beg you.

Consider the rest of us. Most of us are not ready for what Sanders would bring.

Chris Truax, an appellate lawyer in San Diego and a member of USA TODAY's Board of Contributors.

Originally Posted by Hotrod511

I remember watching one of the movies where they went back in time to 1980's San Francisco to get the whales Kirk said they would need money and one of the crew ask "Whats That"

A Man's TikTok Visualizing The Wealth Of Jeff Bezos By Using Grains Of Rice Has Gone Viral

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...e-grains-video

Yang's TikTok showing what $100,000, $1 million, and $1 billion look like in grains of rice has caused all kinds of reactions and sociopolitical discussions online, even though he said he never intended his video to have any specific commentary.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
Star Trek has a lesson Bernie bros need to hear: We're not ready

https://www.yahoo.com/news/star-trek...150955634.html


And it is by no means certain that they will conclude that a committed socialist, even a democratic one, is the lesser of two evils.

Why does that sound sooo familiar?


are yous throwing shade at Evil Lord Trump or a mudpie in Hillary's eye?


But suppose Bernie did win the presidency. What then? If there is no evidence that millions of previously-unseen voters will flock to his banner, there is massive, irrefutable evidence that huge swaths of America absolutely will not.

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Originally Posted by Tiny
Ignore Eccieuser at your peril. Given the demographics of our country and the preferences of certain groups like Millenials, socialism in the USA is a strong possibility. Logic and reason don't matter. They didn't to the Argentines when they elected the Kirchners or Venezuelans when they elected Chavez. Or Americans when they elected Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

I am curious whether he's really a fan of Marxism and Communism or whether he's pulling our chain.


he's concerned about the possibility of a commie fucktard like Bernie becoming prez .. as he should be.


Electing Bernie Sanders as president would mean war to the knife, with committed activists on both sides fighting to the (hopefully metaphorical) death with a lot of us trapped in no-man’s land and taking fire from both camps. A vote for Bernie Sanders isn’t a vote for a return to honest government and peace, it’s a vote for class war.

Many of Sanders’ most committed supporters think that’s exactly what America needs and that the only way to save America is a revolution. But none of us should be comfortable with the idea of destroying America in order to save it.

Oh really? Again, that sounds sooo familiar. Why?


now yous are just full of shit! yous who have railed yer nads off about income inequality trying to deny class warfare as the objective? okay ... BAHHAAA


If you are a progressive activist and a Sanders supporter, I understand that you yearn for President Sanders and his re-making of America with all your heart.

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But I beg you.

Consider the rest of us. Most of us are not ready for what Sanders would bring.

define "most" in terms of the adult electorate of the US today. if i live to be 90 in 30 more years there still won't be a "most" in terms of progressive socialist support. but keep dreaming ..

Chris Truax, an appellate lawyer in San Diego and a member of USA TODAY's Board of Contributors.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotrod511
I remember watching one of the movies where they went back in time to 1980's San Francisco to get the whales Kirk said they would need money and one of the crew ask "Whats That"

A Man's TikTok Visualizing The Wealth Of Jeff Bezos By Using Grains Of Rice Has Gone Viral

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...e-grains-video

Quote:
Yang's TikTok showing what $100,000, $1 million, and $1 billion look like in grains of rice has caused all kinds of reactions and sociopolitical discussions online, even though he said he never intended his video to have any specific commentary.

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

are yous throwing shade at Evil Lord Trump or a mudpie in Hillary's eye?

Why separate the two? Shade to the boy King. AAAND a mudpie in Hillary's eye. It was a lesser of two evils then too.

he's concerned about the possibility of a commie fucktard like Bernie becoming prez .. as he should be.

Your McCarthyite tactics aren't working. Social Democracy isn't Communism. But keep freaking out. It's funny.

now yous are just full of shit! yous who have railed yer nads off about income inequality trying to deny class warfare as the objective? okay ... BAHHAAA

That wasn't me, dork. That was from the article you posted.

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define "most" in terms of the adult electorate of the US today. if i live to be 90 in 30 more years there still won't be a "most" in terms of progressive socialist support. but keep dreaming ..

Again, that was from the article you posted. I should ask you to define "us".

[The_Waco_Kid]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
are yous throwing shade at Evil Lord Trump or a mudpie in Hillary's eye?

Why separate the two? Shade to the boy King. AAAND a mudpie in Hillary's eye. It was a lesser of two evils then too.

he who stabs himself in both eyes is blind ..


he's concerned about the possibility of a commie fucktard like Bernie becoming prez .. as he should be.

Your McCarthyite tactics aren't working. Social Democracy isn't Communism. But keep freaking out. It's funny.

McCarthy was right. your beloved commies were trying to infiltrate American politics. and don't say Social Democracy isn't the path to Communism. even Karl Marx said so.

now yous are just full of shit! yous who have railed yer nads off about income inequality trying to deny class warfare as the objective? okay ... BAHHAAA

That wasn't me, dork. That was from the article you posted.

Originally Posted by



define "most" in terms of the adult electorate of the US today. if i live to be 90 in 30 more years there still won't be a "most" in terms of progressive socialist support. but keep dreaming ..

Again, that was from the article you posted. I should ask you to define "us".


while yous are at it, ask Slick Willie Blythe what the definition of "is" is ..

oh snap! TWK double liked his own post .. again! how does he do that? i'd tell you but it's so obvious you wouldn't believe it .. it's staring you right in yer blind eyes ..

BAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA

[dilbert firestorm]

bernie is a fraud.


McCarthy, best part of it is that, he was a democrat.

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

McCarthy was right. your beloved commies were trying to infiltrate American politics. and don't say Social Democracy isn't the path to Communism. even Karl Marx said so.

Sure, if you say so. Keep freaking out.

Social Democracy isn't the path to Communism. Marx didn't say so.



These are the propaganda ad campaigns that made socialism seem un-American


https://www.fastcompany.com/90469759...em-un-american

American factory workers received about half of the 1.84 million copies of the free pamphlet “The Miracle of America.” One-quarter were distributed free of charge to schools, and 76 universities ordered the booklet.

This pro-business propaganda, expressed in the language of Cold War patriotism, had reached roughly 70% of the American population by the end of the campaign.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

bernie is a fraud.


McCarthy, best part of it is that, he was a democrat.

Not quite. a Democrat until 1944. a Republican after that.


Political partyRepublican (1944–1957)Other political
affiliationsDemocratic (before 1944)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy

[eccieuser9500]

Wikipedia. This computer nerd wants us to believe the quick changes he makes are fact.

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

just remember that even Nazis have the right to free speech on a whore board in Trump's America.

I'm never going to forget.


Talk about a red scare.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Not quite. a Democrat until 1944. a Republican after that.


Political partyRepublican (1944–1957)Other political
affiliationsDemocratic (before 1944)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy

interesting.


there were other sources that referenced mccarthy as democrat.. I guess their info wasn't right.


shame he died badly. died of alcoholism; cirrhosis of the liver and he had also had morphine addiction.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

interesting.


there were other sources that referenced mccarthy as democrat.. I guess their info wasn't right.


shame he died badly. died of alcoholism; cirrhosis of the liver and he had also had morphine addiction.

only 48. didn't recall he died that young. must've drank his damn ass off! makes me look like a teetotaler. got a friend now at 58 with stage 4 cirrhosis of the liver. drank beer all the time. never really hard liquor or wine. he had to completely quit or else .. he's still looking at having a liver transplant.

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

Wikipedia. This computer nerd wants us to believe the quick changes he makes are fact.


bahhaaaa that's just like yous isn't it? mr. "the people! the poeple!" and you don't like Wiki. who knew??


I'm never going to forget.


Talk about a red scare.

so go to Evil Lord Trump's Wiki page. edit it and put something in there .,. oh something like ... "Trump is a poopy dicknose!" .. you can do it .. it won't be there for long. if it lasts an hour or so you'll be lucky.



the reason? Wiki has .. Moderators! BAHAAAAAA sound familiar? while anyone even without an account on Wiki can edit a page .. any edit triggers a review by an Admin. if it's wrong or just plain crap it gets removed. you'll even get a message on that page .. saying they removed it. so go ahead and try it. see how long it takes for an Admin to remove it.



BAHHAHAAAA

[oeb11]

Thank you 9500- the usual hypocrisy - when faced with proof of Error - blame the Fact Source as unreliable.

Foolish tactics - foolish arguments,

he who knoweth no history is condemned to repeat it!
Classic 9500- don't like the answer - revise history to your liking - a usual tactic of you Fascist DPST's!
you do long for your Oceania - don't you!

[rexdutchman]

that was a waste of time

[HoeHummer]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Thank you 9500- the usual hypocrisy - when faced with proof of Error - blame the Fact Source as unreliable.

Foolish tactics - foolish arguments,

he who knoweth no history is condemned to repeat it!
Classic 9500- don't like the answer - revise history to your liking - a usual tactic of you Fascist DPST's!
you do long for your Oceania - don't you!

Originally Posted by rexdutchman

that was a waste of time

One for yous.

And one for your little friend