What's up with the USA? What other countries should I travel to?

[blueeyeswide]

I've been on this board since 2012 and it went from "ok, kinda hot ladies willing to go the distance" to police stings and 40+ BBWs trying to pay their rent. I've yet to have a 9 or a 10 respond to a message.

I have been out of the country a few times but would like to know where the best time can be had? It's legal practically everywhere but the USA, and half the price.

Where are the best hobby spots in the US? I mostly monger in the Texas area and sometimes Mexico. It's really hit/miss, even on this board. It used to be real undoctored photos and now it's a surprise as to who you're really getting on the other end.

Now it's extremely hard as all of the websites closed and anything related to sex is raided every other day, yet somehow strip clubs and Eccie stays open...

[offshoredrilling]

its best to have a board with girls LE would be embarrassed ta bust ?

[KosherCowboy]

Originally Posted by blueeyeswide

I have been out of the country a few times but would like to know where the best time can be had?

Where are the best hobby spots in the US? I mostly monger in the Texas area and sometimes Mexico.

As to abroad you ask a good yet loaded question, all depends on your budget, the time you have to devote, the type of girls you want ( white, asian, latina etc) and the ability to think outside the box. One must also consider do you want the ' pump and dump' service of the sex clubs in Europe that is my personal preference or do you want the TLN girls of LA or perhaps the style of those in Thailand who often like to buy a girlfriend for a week or longer! So many options, none better than the other simply a variety so all of us guys all w different tastes and budgets and styles can find abroad what we love. One German friend I have loves black girls so just went to Africa and went to the Ivory Coast and Ghana and had an incredible cheap time and the girls there were beautiful, very well educated and flawless model type bodies with perfect English many actually University educated with better conjugated English than himself and in the case of the IC French is their native language.

The world is your oyster !

The USA if you have a large budget can offer some great options but the whole booking process, illegality, lack of required STD testing, ( Nevada doesn't count, those brothels are pure garbage), lack of ' on the spot' places like a Red Light District or walk in brothels ( like Barcelona has) etc as well as what you get for your dollar today make the USA simply for me an outlet to hold me over between much better options. To each their own..

FWIW I talk to men from all over the country all the time see them monthly fucking in Europe and it is a very common belief from discussions that Texas and Florida by far offer the best prices although perhaps not the best quality, seems the retirees in Arizona get that prize but they also get a hefty bill!

I have had great luck in Denver as well, prices about the same as here ( actual prices, not advertised prices; always a variance between advertised and what is accepted just like here in Texas; YMMV)

Per your sentiments that the USA sucks now I will simply say times can be good and bad anywhere however abroad things are always good if you pick the right place, do your research and avoid the pitfalls. Find a local wherever you go, they will show you the way better than any tourist ever can unless that tourist is a long time veteran or was ' trained' by a local themselves.

It is all up to you. I wish you luck. If Germany ends up on your itinerary let me know. Every trip I enjoy meeting new mongers. I think one thing about international mongering that most long timers who have done such really enjoy is the friendships and gathering with other guys and the friendships formed and the info we pass around is invaluable and priceless and won't ever be found on the internet.. Intentionally kept off.

Sure one can make contacts on a website like this but nothing can replace sitting around with like minded guys all doing the same thing all with disposable income to enjoy this lifestyle and a bunch of naked girls running around !!

By the way there is no best place to monger in the world, the ' best place'=the best place for YOU. Only you can decide and that is half the fun!

[offshoredrilling]

SallySue? btw how is she doing ?

[blueeyeswide]

@offshoredrilling You're probably right.

@KosherCowboy yeah, Germany seems to be one of the best places when it comes to law. I've been to several places in the US and, whether or not they've been raided, are still open and filled with the finest women I've seen. I see better women at some MPs than clubs or independents.

It's strange here because it's so closed off. You never see attractive women just walking around that often, yet they're willing to be stuffed inside a musty building giving HJs all day. I see them at events and downtown at the bars, but I mean in the general population.

I'm currently trying out Mexico when I can but plan on Germany and Thailand someday.

I know very little about the state of US mongering and that's another reason why I made this post. It seems like either the sites are covering up the real activity and are leaving the uglies as bait, or some major busts happened and it's all closed. All I know is all of the clubs and MPs are still operating here.

It's almost easier just using dating sites. Maybe 5-10 years ago they were all practically advertisements and even today most of the attractive ones work or have worked in the adult industry in some way.

That's kind of how I got into it in the first place. It was hard to find women who weren't working and so many people I knew or met were involved that I just found out about the whole game through them.

[KosherCowboy]

Originally Posted by blueeyeswide

@KosherCowboy yeah, Germany seems to be one of the best places when it comes to law. I've been to several places in the US and, whether or not they've been raided, are still open and filled with the finest women I've seen.

The law actually is very strict ( the legality great) and in 2017 1 July became stricter as condom use for blowjobs and paying taxes and registering as sex workers became mandatory. Raids are on the rise and now I carry my Passport on me all times whereas I used to carry a photocopy as well as a copy of my EU entry stamp. So the German laws suck however service remains unchanged but now the girls are scared and ' certain services' are now being given to regulars and known guys and others denied. I suggest newer visitors to DE team up with a guy who is known and/or find a local..

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

SallySue? btw how is she doing ?

SallySue is doing just great. She learned early to charge a fair rate, was always booked, saved 33% of what she made while working for the future and as sad as I was to see her go I was happy to see a girl walk away having accomplished her goal in 50% of the time as many do ( if they do) . SallySue had a great business mind coupled with great service. Today she is driving around in a brand new SUV fully paid off, owns her own home which is fully paid off and got married to a lawyer. She has 3 beautiful kids all in college w trust funds growing in the booming markets in the great US Economy but beyond that I can say no more as to her locale. I will say the sun shines year round and she opened up her own business.

Hopefully her business model will be implemented by girls both already in and entering the world of P6 and they to can use this opportunity of sex work to realize their goals in such short times.

Sadly her doubles partner Stacie did not save money, blew it on her dirtball boyfriend who dropped out of high school and is now serving time in fact SallySue's husband tried to get him off but due to three strikes and you are out rule the guy is in the can for 27 years eligible for parole in 16. She overcharged her whole career and to this day really isn't retired ( I lied) as she is working still under her 11th handle in 20 years ( back to the ASPD days and prior) and blaming the fact she has to work still on cheap guys who wouldn't pay preposterous rates and she fell for the girls pressure to not negotiate her rates; those very same girls are also still working today.

Stacie did not learn that greed means one must work longer to achieve goals or go belly up while a lady with a good business plan who charges a fair price and who learns the concept of ' never turn down a free lunch within reason' can lead to a very prosperous retirement...

I wish both these ladies best wishes. However, neither lady exists they were simply made up names to show guys how to write a review

[Gotyour6]

Canada is the best but I am only an hour away.

The girls there are models and price is average.

They are willing to see couples and are happy when I bring my 26 year old girlfriend to play.

They are always smiling and dont give you the ghetto look like they are bad ass or something. Not really sure why hookers dont smile in pics any more but in Canada they do.

I would rather pay a Canadian hooker to come to NY for the weekend then rent a scowling NY overweight pig for an hour here

[Zippo65]

Thailand. hands down best in the world.

[yourdesire]

I may not look like a runway model ,not saying I'm flawless by no means. I will say I'm a pretty lady who is not hard to look at and if I don't give 110% I don't feel right. I like being content in my own mind & in my own skin therefore will gurantee satisfaction in what ever I do. Good luck in your travels & quests 💋

[ICU 812]

First off: I respect the ladies. None of us have universal appeal, yet there is someone out there for everyone.


Where to go?

If you are a committed horn dog hobbyist, about anywhere other than the USA I'd guess. Most places have some form of legal prostitution. Close-in and less expensive is the Caribbean/ Central America; Dominican Republic and Costa Rica come to mind. Canada too has pretty liberal laws and for the most part, language is not a problem if you stay out of Quebec. Course, it may cost about as much as USA.

Dunno much about South America.

Further afield: Europe has some good action I have read about. The German FKK clubs sound interesting. And then there is the Fart East; Philippines, Thailand Japan . .. .and China. Hong Cong might not be a good option just now and I'd think twice about just how to get into Macau, but the Casino/Sauna scene there sounds amazing from my vantage point here in Houston.

Africa? Don't even want to look.

[KosherCowboy]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

, yet there is someone out there for everyone.
Where to go?

Great key point you make. 'Something for everyone.' Like one girl told me ' you guys are all different like snowflakes' and she is right, if we all liked the same thing we would all be in the same place fucking the exact same girls. However;

the vast offerings abroad are what makes all this so rewarding; there is a place for all of us or multiple if one likes and IMHO one should not say' Germany is the best' or ' the DR is the best' as we are usually by nature biased to our favorite locations but we must also realize what works for one guy may not work for the next. All monger spots IMHO were created equally, some just appeal more to some guys than others and visa versa.

Let's all just be thankful we have so many choices for our budget and I have respect for all guys smart and/or wise enough with the means to get out of here. We share a common formula
Any mongering spot > P6 in the USA

International Mongering to me is much more than just the pussy. it is a time to get away, make new friends, share stories and laugh and simply have a good time with guys doing the same things. We all come from different walks of life. I've sat on couches with truck drivers and cement workers as well as one of the heirs to a one of Germany's top 10 companies and all types of guys in between. To me these experiences enhance the entire trip. Go enough you get to know all the club regulars and even better the girls get to all know you=better service

One must find their niche in this monger world and discover their own Monger Nirvana, only ' you' generically speaking can do that.

Happy hunting to all, time to go get Euros tomorrow and get the fuck out of Dodge this week.

To the OP, pick a spot of interest, look at the reviews and PM some guys who have been and start chiseling away at any questions you may have, pick a place and go. Only one way to start, choose a new locale you have not been and go.

My suggestion to you based on TX and MX being your horizons so far and you specifically mentioned ' half the price' this tells me you need to go to one of the spots where price is more important to you; I roll in a different way but that is just me. Based on price try Asia if you like Asian ladies and have the time but I think you might enjoy a trip to Colombia or Costa Rica. Those places are a drop in the bucket. Why not?

Well wherever you go, report back and good luck

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

Dunno much about South America.

Further afield: Europe has some good action I have read about. The German FKK clubs sound interesting. And then there is the Fart East; Philippines, Thailand Japan . .. .and China. Hong Cong might not be a good option just now and I'd think twice about just how to get into Macau, but the Casino/Sauna scene there sounds amazing from my vantage point here in Houston.

Well, I'll chime in since I know a bit about those places. Colombia is fantastic. Bogota would be number one if price is a consideration and if you like the club scene and short time experiences. There's an area called Santa Fe which is dirt cheap but a little dumpy and safety may be a concern if you're not street smart. And the north, which has some nicer and much more expensive (by Colombian standards) options. Cartagena is safe and a great place to wife up -- get a girl and stay with her from a night to a week. Medellin would be in between. I've only been to Brazil once, but people rave about Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paolo.

As to Asia, I'd question whether Japan or China would be good choices. While I've been to both, I've never mongered in either, and understand it's a bit difficult if you don't speak the language. Hong Kong, agreed, think twice right now. Macau isn't hard to get to. There are frequent ferries from Hong Kong, and I believe a road they've been building for years from Hong Kong is now up and going. I'd add Jakarta in Indonesia to your list. And yes, Thailand and the Philippines are good choices.

internationalsexguide.info is a good source of general information for these countries.

[omg_lol]

I went to Montreal a couple months ago for an extended weekend and fucked about a dozen Instagram model-quality girls for about half the price of girls here and it was true GFE, not no kissing, no CBJ bullshit, etc. Every girl showed up on time and a couple were a couple minutes early! Wow!

I plan to go to Europe sometime this year. I’m not really a brothel guy, I usually invite two or three girls to my hotel room: one in the early morning, one in the evening, and do touristy stuff during the day. The ultimate vacation

I do see sugar babies and there are a few true UTR girls who will spend the night with you if you pay their next car payment. Then there’s always online dating.

The theme for 2020 and forward should be never settling for less.

[HoeHummer]

Canada for sure. Good prices and beautiful ladies. Montreal yes, but Quebec City is stellar.

Costa Rica is also nice and easy access from the States. Plus, yous can drink the water without getting the scoots.