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Old 09-08-2017, 02:11 PM   #16
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As far as I can tell, that information is not available to the public, so for a columnist to decide what was in Comey's mind is speculation, not fact.
At this point, I am not willing to defend Comey, but I also haven't seen enough credible information to condemn him either.
But since the FBI is the ones not making the info available To the public, so we can decide for ourselves, all we have to go on is what perceptions we come up with based on what little info we DO have..
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Old 09-08-2017, 08:00 PM   #17
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Right, and North Korea is actually a democracy because their official name is Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea.
not the same thing.

the national socialist german workers party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) have passed socialist laws during their tenure. The NDSAP never called themselves nazi.

alot of people including the historians were duped in thinking they were right wing.

they were right wing in the sense that they were to the right of the communists, but left of center from the conservatives view point.
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not the same thing.

the national socialist german workers party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) have passed socialist laws during their tenure.
Actually it is very close to the same thing. North Korea holds elections every 5 years. Were the socialist laws that the NSDAP implemented? Given the overall body of laws and practices of the NSDAP, were the socialist laws central to or important to the NSDAP?

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they were right wing in the sense that they were to the right of the communists, but left of center from the conservatives view point.
Can you be specific? Which conservatives considered NSDAP to be left of center? Everything I can find indicates that in the German political landscape of the 20s the NSDAP was considered to be far to the right. What parties considered the NSDAP to be left of their own position? What parties considered the NSDAP to be right of their own position? What features of Nazi Germany during the war resembled a left of center government?

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alot of people including the historians were duped in thinking they were right wing.
Well, somebody has been duped, but I don't think it was the historians.

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(Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) ...The NDSAP never called themselves nazi.
The reason the NSDAP never referred to themselves as Nazi is because Nazi was a pejorative term in use before the party took its name. Also, in German, the t in Nationale is pronounced like the z in Nazi, so it is much more likely that those calling the NSDAP Nazi did so because of the first two syllables of Nationale rather than the first syllable of Nationale and the second syllable of Sozialistische. (Or did I misunderstand why you emphasized those two syllables?)
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