Is it just me or is it getting a little pricey up here?

[nekisa]

Traveling costs have gone up tremendously, they always do in the summer time.
I personally live in Oregon and our housing market/rent has literally tripled.
You have to take everything into account, its basic math.

Also, I might ad, that hookers rates haven't changed much (inflation) in decades. How is pussy still the same price as it was in the 80's? If you see a rising cost in everything else, you should expect the same here. duhhhhh!

[Analeese]

Originally Posted by grean

Inflation smaition. Inflation doesn't matter. Rent Sment. Irrelevant!

If a [ fill in the professional title, i.e lawyer, doctor , cop, mechanic, or hooker ]had all their expenses paid for somehow, lets say a trust fund, and even had extra discretionary income to play, why would they charge less than what they can earn?

No one would question a lawyer who charges 350 or 500 an hour. Most folks can't afford that. There are enough people who can afford it and deem their service worth it. Otherwise they would not be able to charge that much.

They may choose to do something at a lower rate, or pro boner ( I'm funny!), on occasion. It is their choice.

ALSO as a culture we generally associate value with price. You get what you pay for, we think. Therefore price becomes a marketing tool to sell the idea you are using something with more value.

Mary Louise Parker's character in "Weeds", sold the same product at a higher price to affluent clientele by putting it in a nice package. The perceived value made it sell. ( a TV show, but very realistic scenario. )

Chrysler Mopar Mercedes uses or used, I'm not certain anymore, the exact same frame and engine block for a Chrysler Crossover as it did for a Mercedes model.

A thermostat is a very cheap part at Autozone. You can install it your self within minutes. Call your local mechanic as see what he will charge to do it.


Funny enough, especially here in the south, a woman's virtue has a priceless premium attached to it. However, once she puts a price on it and starts selling it, she gets less respect than a lying snake of a lawyer charging out the ass or a shyster mechanic.

If a girl ups her game and ups her price, these dumb ass threads start.

Pay and get laid. Don't pay and jack off. Just deal....

I agree...this was very good...and I'm worried for those that will still try and argue with this.

Perception is everything sometimes...why do you think escorts have websites, ads, professional photos, Snapchats ect...yes its marketing but it's also perceived to be more professional and it seems to be more acceptable to charge a higher price...

[ElisabethWhispers]

Originally Posted by nekisa

...Also, I might ad, that hookers rates haven't changed much (inflation) in decades. How is pussy still the same price as it was in the 80's? If you see a rising cost in everything else, you should expect the same here. duhhhhh!

I've been reading this topic for a few days, here and there, and a lot of the responses are surprising to me, except for this one above.

The rates for sex workers really haven't gone up. In fact, the overall rates have gone downwards.

23-25 years ago, working off of Highway 121 would net you either $100 an hour for intercourse OR (covered) oral sex. $150 for a half and half, which is what it was called back then.

You could get a (always covered) blowjob for the house fee plus around $80.

So over 20 years ago, men were paying about $200 an hour for sex in a hot and sweaty tub room or poorly decorated rooms in funky trailers.

Period.

Or you searched the yellow pages or newspapers. Word of mouth was big back then.

When I started doing the online escorting thing, my beginnings was being a scheduling assistant to a female friend who was gorgeous, etc.

This was over 15 years ago. She was making $300 an hour, working all day long, and not batting an eye.

During the ASPD days, when I started, even I was charging $250 an hour and $300/outcall.

Although some ladies were charging in the $150-200 arena, that really wasn't what I saw a lot of.

About 7 years ago, I changed my marketing plan, lowered my rates and a did very well.

But it's taken me that long to get my rates back to $240 an hour which is still less than it was 12 years ago.

I'm not seeing the HDH market thrive like it used to.

Ladies who used to charge $1200 for 3 hours of play really isn't something that you see very often.

It's still out there. But the HDH market used to be fluid and obvious. Now? Not so much.

Even in the Dallas area, I've seen long time sex workers change their rates to reflect the market. What else can one do?

On a few sex worker sites, there are graphs and more "proof" however, I'm sure that I won't change anyone's mind who wishes to complain about rates.

Much, though, of what everyone is writing about is true.

Dallas rents are blasphemous now. Almost unbelievable when I imagine being an average admin worker. Don't know how single women working regular hourly jobs, or even mid-range exempt positions ($40,000-50,000), are making it.

Landlords who are sex worker friendly are, often, predators who feel justified in overcharging for sub-standard properties.

This isn't always the case, but there are a lot of folks out there who have no problem making their money off of our backs.

So where does this leave us?

I'm not seeing where the Average Joe is really making it that well in the Dallas area. Many are doing fine, I'm sure.

Paying to have sex with an upscale escort is a game for kings. That's an old yarn but it's true. It's not for the average guy to do on a regular basis.

Truly, it's now a buyer's market. The Dallas men have had that advantage now for years and years.

For anyone to complain about raised rates in the demimonde? It's just not an accurate assessment of what is really going on.

Elisabeth

[Recurve Jones]

Thought, there was much more of a need for "ladies of the night" in the bible thumping era. Now most ladies are thots and it has become very acceptable in society for women to be more promiscuous. That being said, the entire profession is ever evolving and changing. Some ladies don't sell pussy, but cameras and screen time, porn is free on the interwebs, sex and blowjobs can be had with random strangers in "hookup" bars, there are interest groups who connect and perform sexual acts on each other, then you even have the collette's and 13th floor style clubs.. The fact is, sex is much more accessible and accepted these days because we are more open as a society. Things that our grandfathers would have thought was a big deal, we wouldn't even blink twice at. Not sure of what point I'm trying to make here, but I'm sure there's something somewhere.

[ElisabethWhispers]

Originally Posted by Recurve Jones

Thought, there was much more of a need for "ladies of the night" in the bible thumping era. Now most ladies are thots and it has become very acceptable in society for women to be more promiscuous. That being said, the entire profession is ever evolving and changing. Some ladies don't sell pussy, but cameras and screen time, porn is free on the interwebs, sex and blowjobs can be had with random strangers in "hookup" bars, there are interest groups who connect and perform sexual acts on each other, then you even have the collette's and 13th floor style clubs.. The fact is, sex is much more accessible and accepted these days because we are more open as a society. Things that our grandfathers would have thought was a big deal, we wouldn't even blink twice at. Not sure of what point I'm trying to make here, but I'm sure there's something somewhere.

I like what you wrote and the points that you made.

I remember having clients who had never experienced a blow job.

That's really not much of the case now, however, I still run into the occasional fellow who has difficulty arriving at an orgasm with oral sex because that's not what his experiences were when younger.

Sex is freer, in some ways.

Instead of the HDH market, I'm seeing where the young women are going towards the sugar daddy route and telling themselves it's not prostitution although a bunch of us might argue the point.

So there could also be societal reasons why escorting, overall, hasn't been experiencing the upward pay scale that other work arenas have offered.

Hugs,
EW

[grean]

Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

I like what you wrote and the points that you made.

I remember having clients who had never experienced a blow job.

That's really not much of the case now, however, I still run into the occasional fellow who has difficulty arriving at an orgasm with oral sex because that's not what his experiences were when younger.

Sex is freer, in some ways.

Instead of the HDH market, I'm seeing where the young women are going towards the sugar daddy route and telling themselves it's not prostitution although a bunch of us might argue the point.

So there could also be societal reasons why escorting, overall, hasn't been experiencing the upward pay scale that other work arenas have offered.

Hugs,
EW

Either way, ladies should avoid defending their rates.

It's a fools errand.

[Recurve Jones]

Originally Posted by grean

Either way, ladies should avoid defending their rates.

It's a fools errand.

"Ladies" do whatever the fuck they want, pretty sure they don't give a damn about about what "you" feel they should do. We're all adults here, if a guy wants to bitch about prices, it's his perogative. If a lady wants to bitch about a guy bitching about prices, it's her perogative. Get it? It's called being a grown ass person.

[PetrusMaximus]

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Do you think rent is the only bill a provider has?

I know a girl who walks around carrying a tray, asking for orders and after a while asks you how you are doing.

She makes rent by just working on the weekend only. Other days, the money she earns go for other things.

Like I never knew about this conversation? I actually had a good conversation with this girl and learned a lot about how she makes it through the month.

In addition to that, strippers, man, these girls can do amazing things. After the tipouts, the number still looks good. Three days a week, one night and the rent is paid.

What about you, Grace? What's your story?

I know.

I know.

Not everyone is the same.

[BLM69]

Originally Posted by nekisa

Traveling costs have gone up tremendously, they always do in the summer time.
I personally live in Oregon and our housing market/rent has literally tripled.
You have to take everything into account, its basic math.

Also, I might ad, that hookers rates haven't changed much (inflation) in decades. How is pussy still the same price as it was in the 80's? If you see a rising cost in everything else, you should expect the same here. duhhhhh!

Traveling cost are lodging are expensive when away from home, I've been thinking why pussy has gotten cheaper than years ago, it has to be the number of providers vs client ratios

[johnspice]

Originally Posted by BLM69

Traveling cost are lodging are expensive when away from home, I've been thinking why pussy has gotten cheaper than years ago, it has to be the number of providers vs client ratios

Why the price of commercial sex is falling

And, then came across this -

How Much a $2,000-an-Hour Hooker Actually Takes Home

little off-topic but still somewhat related, IMHO.

[Reverseheadstock]

She put it up her nose? Did not see that coming.

[jrock]

Guys -

The MARKET sets the price, not the ladies. If they charge too much, they don't get enough business, so they come down on price. If they are too low, they get flooded with business. They have to adjust it based on what the market will bear. Guess who is the market? US! That is right, WE set the price. This is what is known as a free market. When you go to NYC, it's even higher (just like houses are), and when you go to Lafayette, LA, it's lower (just like houses). Be happy you live in a great place like Dallas with reasonable prices, and AMAZING ladies. And stop whining!

[guest071618-1]

First I am not attacking either side...

average doctors make $50 to $300/hr.
average lawyers make $50 to $200/hr.
average engineers make $30 to $150/hr.
average auto mechanics make $20 to $50/hr.

these are what they take home, not what they bill to client and they have to pay tax.

If most of guys think with their big head and compare what they make to what they are paying, probably there won't be much of biz for ladies. BUT we all think with our small head or eyes and that why we are in this hobby.

I have no problem with paying higher rate to some ladies who I feel that deserves it. I have seen some ladies that actually prepare themselves to meet/entertain. I know at least 2 ladies in Dallas who told me that it takes more than an hour to get ready and it shows. Which put them at working hours of 3 (1 hr to get ready, 1 hr meet, 1 hr to clean up).

But there are also ladies who are over their head in looks (fake pics or strategic pic taking), skill, and thinking meet is just to fuck. If market can learn to eliminate these girls, price can be more justified.

To me, I am paying you to watch your show to enjoy. You are the actress in my show. It is just like movie makers pay high dollar to famous, skilled, experienced, sexy, pretty actress. AND just like when these actresses get older their value goes down (except few). height of providers to me is mid 20's to 30's but that all depends on how much small head will willing to pay and individual preference.

There are handful of ladies in Dallas, I have no problem paying $300+ rate but there are ladies who are just flat no worth $100 and I have walked away before.

As for rates in Dallas, I don't see it as high compare to DC, NY, LV. of course living cost is lower in Dallas also. But few ladies I met, I had more success of looks and service in Dallas than anywhere else.

Elisa I really enjoyed your post and give u all the respect but just my 5 cent on your post.

Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

Dallas rents are blasphemous now. Almost unbelievable when I imagine being an average admin worker. Don't know how single women working regular hourly jobs, or even mid-range exempt positions ($40,000-50,000), are making it.

$40k - $50k is not enough to live? I though Dallas was cheaper than DC. What kind of luxury life are we talking about?

Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

Paying to have sex with an upscale escort is a game for kings. That's an old yarn but it's true. It's not for the average guy to do on a regular basis.

Agree but I am sure most of clients are average Joe.


Now do I think it is too high? I don't know but Dallas rate is lower than other areas.
Are ladies charge too much? Of course they do... their rate is higher than almost all career that I know of... but I also think doctors ($200~$1,000/hr billing), lawyer ($150~$500/hr billing), auto Mechanics ($60~$120/hr) charge me too much.

[PetrusMaximus]

The macro analysis does not work. That's like not going to convince anyone.

So stop analyzing at the macro level.

Get down to the girl you are trying to get a hangout with and gripe about her super-high-off-the-chart rates.

Micro analysis down to the provider level might work.

But then you know you will get a ton of sh%t for doing that.

[BLM69]

There's plenty of bargain pussy in here still, You need to put out a line and they will bite, this post is my line.....