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Old 07-04-2017, 02:30 AM   #31
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[QUOTE=Copierguy0;1059690063]P411 handle is different than an ECCIE handle for these reasons:
A P411 Client Id consists of Your First Name, the Day you were Born, the First Letter of your Birth City and the last four digits of any ID. It is very important that you use your real information when creating your P411 Client ID, as it will be verified against identification carried in your wallet when you meet with a provider.

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Copierguy0; I ABSOLUTELY know that information about a man's official P411 ID/Handle.

I was referring to the page on his profile where he can choose to answer personal questions or not, and in about the middle of the page before the personal questions(optional), it says
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"Does this client write reviews? If so on what sites under what handle?"

The client can say yes or no to writing reviews, but even if he says no, he should list his other sites so we can screen them too.

ECCIE-No: Does not write reviews
Handle-(leaves blank)

TER-Yes: writes reviews
Handle-studmuffin

I don't think P411 verifies this info. His actual Eccie handle might be mannslutt or lickinglicenses: he may not want his Eccie posts and reviews to be part of the providers screening, which I think is allowed. But his Eccie handle, posts and reviews could be controversial, or he could have changed it. This information could play a factor in the providers' decision to accept the appointment request. Providers and clients all have DNS lists partially based on what they see and read on Eccie. But a provider cannot keep her P411 and Eccie identities from being connected. A client can. By just NOT ANSWERING the question about are you on other escort sites, if so do you write reviews and if so, UNDER WHAT HANDLE.
He can just lie, or lie by omission. I've seen clients admit that it happens, in certain CoEd threads. They WANT to keep Eccie and P411 separate, to prevent a provider from reading his posts and reviews on Eccie which would cause her to think of him in a negative manner. Simply put, he's a pig on Eccie, gentlemanly on P411.

I have no idea, but I would think it's rare. But I don't think clients are on P411 and NOT on Eccie, yet many times that question IS left blank on P411 profiles. I guess we providers could ask for a PM from Eccie every time we get an appointment request on P411. But I don't.
And it just seems strange that a client may want his ID'S separate and that it's possible for a client but not a provider.
But I'm sure it would not puzzle me enough to write a book about it at 3:30 AM if I wasn't sleepwriting. And listening to the rain. Goodnight. ♡
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Old 07-04-2017, 10:12 AM   #32
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Ginger, I see what you are saying but you know, as well as I do, there are many reasons why a client would try to hide his identity on other sites (pig/jerk/barebacker/trouble maker/scammer/pimp/womanizer) and appear as a gentleman on P411. You mentioned a couple of them, and they know that Gina won't tolerate that BS. (Not all Providers reveal how many sites they advertise on, or their handles either) You almost sound like providers are not sneaky like that. Maybe you need to re-read the OPs complaint. There will always be some risk in this business, that why y’all get paid the big bucks. Lol

I cannot speak for other guy’s and how they decide to manage their accounts. Since I am divorced and have no SO, I do not need to hide; I fill out every field with accurate information and even have a detailed BIO. IMHO, if y’all providers stuck together and communicated back and forth accurately, (safety over competition) y’all would not have these kinds of problems. Call a few of their Oks and problem solved. Truth be told, P411 is still better than backpage or any of those other sites as a starting point for providers screening. Clients pay for this service and give P411 their personal information that has been verified; that should account for something.

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Old 07-04-2017, 10:12 AM   #33
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I would say give me her p411 name so I can get those sweet sweet p411points, but it'd be nicer to tell her so she has a chance to fix it before getting in trouble
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Old 07-07-2017, 01:18 AM   #34
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Yeah all Ladies charge more for p411 member smh
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Old 07-07-2017, 02:00 AM   #35
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I guess she isn't concerned on repeat clients?
I would think if you got repeat clients,you are doing something right, not to mention ease of screening if any at all and comfort level of knowing your regular vs someone new.
Some things in the hobby, I will never understand at all.

To look at it in future perspective, that client that saw you once and he is happy may see x number of times in the future.

There are plenty of gals who do it right though.
Kudos to the gals who do it right from tcb to bcd.
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Old 07-07-2017, 06:25 AM   #36
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Yeah all Ladies charge more for p411 member smh
Simply not true. Some yes, but not all. And if you find one doing it, report them
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Old 07-07-2017, 07:24 AM   #37
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Yeah all Ladies charge more for p411 member smh
Very not true....the rates listed on my p411 ad are 200/hr 120/HH

My rates listed here on eccie are 250/hr 175/hh

Yes if you see a lady charging more on p411 you should report it. Gina has also said to report ladies using fake or outdated pictures.
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Old 07-07-2017, 08:37 AM   #38
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Hmm, let Gina know. P411 requires the rate posted there cannot be higher than the normal rate posted elsewhere if I remember correctly
I was told rates on p411 must match webpage
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I was told rates on p411 must match webpage
see the post explaining it on the first page of this thread
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Old 07-07-2017, 12:35 PM   #40
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I've seen a few ladies who have a P411 discount versus their ECCIE rates.
When I'm not running specials on eccie, I usually have special rate for P411. The screening goes much faster and I don't have to wait on a reply that could take even a day if I'm doing regular screening with other providers to verify the client is safe to see and that they would see him again.

Occasionally I still get messages from ladies on P411 asking about the client, but I usually get a little aggravated about that.If I gave them an OK on P411, then obviously they are safe and I would see them again. I don't know what the point of contacting me is, especially if it is someone I haven't seen in a long time.
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