IOP vs GFE...

[Guest110416]

IOP is an acronym that is included in GFE so the terms are not really one verses the other.

Let's face facts, most hobbyists are not going to turn on a provider so much that there will be nothing but total passion in a session, especially on a first meeting, hence IOP. Only a select few group of rare providers can pull that off without even the slightest detection of a hobbyist knowing it is fake.

Ladies, that is what a hobbyist is paying you for, to at the very least act like you are not only enjoying the company of a client, but also that you like him and he is your boyfriend for the time he has paid for to be in your presence. I know, sometimes that is hard to do, but it is what I call being a mattress actress!

[micktoz]

There is always some cynic in the crowd.

I really don't know what GFE is. I know what passion is and there are some ladies that show their passion in a way that excites me to be passionate also. If I click with the lady the session has all the fun and passion that I would wish from a girlfriend. If we don't click, which rarely happens because I am very selective about who I see, sex is just sex. That's why I tend to repeat with ladies that I get that click with.

Or I could be delusional. Please don't pull the covers.

[Squish]

Pardon the old man here, but these terms have changed very much over the years.

Just from my own experiences over the years, GFE used to be more like a true girlfriend experience. It wasnt applied the same way as today. Back then it was more like a date, dinner and movie, etc....guaranteed to get laid, but still a real date....which is why the term confused me so much when rejoininf the scene.

I really couldnt understand how you could get a GFE in a BnG, 15 minute, hhr. or even an hour long session...

Times change, sometimes for the better, sometimes not. The ladies are much hotter nowdays for sure.

Im still confused about the term IOP, but im old so really dont care to be honest. We're really all just looking for a connection, short or long term. The ladies probably are too, they are just not as obvious as we are. Some are in it for the cash only, and you can tell who those are by a simple conversation, or first "date".

I guess, if they dont gag or vomit when you walk in the room, thats good IOP?

Squish

[grean]

Originally Posted by Laura Lynn

I agree with milfy. Without passion, would it really be GFE?

Depending how long you've been with your actual girl friend, a true GFE experience might be cold and mechanical.

IOP in those cases would confuse the hell out of a guy who requested a GFE session.

RoFL.....

[cinderbella]

I use the term IOP in my advertising because I am older, and I look for the guys who want more of a hands on approach. I don't watch the clock, have regulars who I have known for years and many of them are looking for more of an emotional affair where it is all about them. I am more the kiss, cuddle, massage type provider. I get phone calls and texts from many of them just reaching out to say hello.

I am grateful to be able to do what I do. I love and admire men, and it is so much fun to flirt and tease. I have always enjoyed that, I follow my heart and my passion is pleasure. What a beautiful life it is.

[LordoftheRim]

Originally Posted by Copierguy0

IMHO: Y’all are all wrong: IOP is an ATTITUDE WITH PASSION, LUST IN HER EYES. Only the good providers can pull this off with every Troll that knocks on her door and set the MOOD.

NON-GFE = CBJ, NO PSE, NO KISSING, NO DATY, NO FIV, NO FIA, NO GREEK, NO NOTHING, MECHANICAL SESSION, just drop off donation and leave. The red light is always on. I have never seen IOP here.

LIMITED GFE = CBJ, (some providers might do BBBJ but you need to ask) NO PSE, NO KISSING, MECHANICAL SESSION, and you need to ask her what other NO’s there are. From one provider to another, the NO’s might be different in this category. LIMITED is code for proceed with caution, like a yellow light. I have never seen IOP here.

GFE = BBBJ, LFK, DFK, DATY, MSOG, FIV, FIA, SS, COT, COA, COF, CIM maybe, PASSION, GROPING, IOP maybe, some even BBBJCIMNQNS in this category. (Ask about Greek) GREEN light is on.

PSE = GFE and much more, FREAKY, GREEK, SWALLOW, CIM, SNOWBALLING, BONDAGE, PORN STYLE. IOP maybe. There are NO red, yellow, or green lights in this category. ALL 100 MPH HIGHWAY

CG

My view is very similar to CopierGuy's as GFE, GFE (limited) and PSE are more about the activities whereas IOP is about attitude, connection and the environment the provider creates. As to what activities are included in GFE and PSE, my experience that it does or can vary by provider.

[MD_4_HotFun]

I agree with Milfy that any gal who truly loves making love will have true passion. Some show it more. I have found that women who have much more on their menu with both GFE and PSE will definitely show lots of passion because they truly love sex. Women with very limited menus tend, in my experience, to not seem to enjoy anything. No sense playing with any women who doesn't love fucking. Women who love it all and do it all, are generally very wild lovers!!!!

[Sir Lancehernot]

Originally Posted by cinderbella

I use the term IOP in my advertising because I am older, and I look for the guys who want more of a hands on approach. I don't watch the clock, have regulars who I have known for years and many of them are looking for more of an emotional affair where it is all about them. I am more the kiss, cuddle, massage type provider. I get phone calls and texts from many of them just reaching out to say hello.

I am grateful to be able to do what I do. I love and admire men, and it is so much fun to flirt and tease. I have always enjoyed that, I follow my heart and my passion is pleasure. What a beautiful life it is.

"Emotional affairs" and "reaching out to say hello" -- a guy who admits he seeks the former and practices the latter would be excoriated here.

I do wish more women recognized the guys for whom it's more about the client than his cock and could tailor sessions to those desires.

[FemiLove]

GFE to me is pretty vanilla with some passionate kissing, bbbjcim, DATY, covered FS, cum where you want on my body and great IOP, MSOG INCLUDED.

PSE could include all of GFE and shower sex, TUMA, TUHA, GREEK with some gals but not me, BDSM with some gals but not me, golden shower fun(I am into giving but YMMV)(have clients who want me to pee in their mouth while eating my cum and theirs), BBFS (ymmv if hygiene poor), creampies only with current negative test results, intense IOP should be the norm with multiple orgasms for the guy and me. MSOG will leave him drained. Guys should stagger out of session kind of dazed with intense PSE SESSION TOTALLY DRAINED OF ALL CUM.

[SIX&THICK]

Amen Femi!!!