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Old 05-25-2015, 08:00 PM   #16
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Quote the rest of the amendment and condemn Obama as a liar and traitor. Besides, that amendment was originally for free slaves and you know it.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

Only Congress can make immigration law, understand? Only Congress, not Obama, not the Justice department, only Congress. That feeling you're having right now. That is your ass being handed to you.
As usual, you've changed the discussion midway through. We weren't talking about who made the immigration laws, we were discussing the immigration issue itself. Of course you got your balloon knot reamed out in that arena, so you figured you better change it up, lest you get a second asshole ripped open. And then your little chiltepin buddy, king asslicker, comes marching in to back you up. Even though he has no idea that you've changed the subject in the middle of the discussion. He just knows he wants to back your sweet sweet ass up... against the wall and fuck it.
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Old 05-25-2015, 10:05 PM   #17
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Just like you can't get past the 2d Amendment's "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", you can't get past the citizenship clause in the 14th.

Like it or not, if she drops that baby on the northern bank of the Rio Grande, that baby is a US Citizen. And the only way to change that is with a Constitutional Amendment.

Period.
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Old 05-25-2015, 10:08 PM   #18
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Just like you can't get past the 2d Amendment's "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", you can't get past the citizenship clause in the 14th.

Like it or not, if she drops that baby on the northern bank of the Rio Grande, that baby is a US Citizen. And the only way to change that is with a Constitutional Amendment.

Period.
Completely agree. This is one area where I think conservatives have not fully thought through the results such an action might bring about. It's much the same with the religious debate. They want to open things up for Christians but in the long run, they are going to open things up for all religions. Which of course they don't want.
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Old 05-26-2015, 05:17 AM   #19
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Just like you can't get past the 2d Amendment's "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", you can't get past the citizenship clause in the 14th.

Like it or not, if she drops that baby on the northern bank of the Rio Grande, that baby is a US Citizen. And the only way to change that is with a Constitutional Amendment.

Period.
Wrong, she wasn't "subject to the jurisdiction thereof".
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Old 05-26-2015, 06:48 AM   #20
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Have you proven you are who you say you are DSK?
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Old 05-26-2015, 06:27 PM   #21
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Have you proven you are who you say you are DSK?
Why do you have an agenda against me?
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Why do you have an agenda against me?
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