Newbie needs advice on screening

[mattop78]

I am new to the US scene, as I am traveling there next week but have had many encounters in Europe. Question is on screening. I have found a provider that is very well established and I sent an email to her answering in a very polite and honest way all of her questions, real name, phone number, home location. I also made it clear that I did not have any references in the states, but would like to work with her on getting screened. Her website states that using p411, or RS2K is preferred to speed up the process but that she welcomed newbies and would work to help getting screened.
I sent an email two days ago but no answer, I suspect that I may not be welcomed for some reason, perhaps because of the lack of provider references, but I am not sure. I really want to get some advice with this and what I may be able to do/offer to work on getting screened without seeming like I am some sort of weirdo that keeps bugging her. No phone number is provided she does all via email according to her site and handles here and on TER.
Any advice on what I may be able to do to sweeten that proposal for a meeting. Maybe a public meeting first? I have initiated a membership with P411 but do not want to pay if she will not even send a reply to my initial email. Moving on to another provider will be inconvenient since I live outside a major metro area and her location is also remote and only a 45 minutes drive for me.
Thanks for any advice.

[Guest022718]

Give her a few more days to do her research, and if still no reply, send her an email thanking her for her consideration, and tell her you are moving on.

THEN MOVE ON.

Life is too short to spend it pining over a provider that will not respond to you. There are literally thousands of professionals here and elsewhere who want your business.

For the record, I would strongly suggest getting a p411 account. Give your private info once and only once to a reputable company and then never, ever again.

Good luck.

[pyramider]

The Search tab is your best friend. There are hundreds of these threads.

[Camille Fox]

Even us providers don't hear from other providers at time. That's many ppl's way to say they are not interested in having any sort of business with you. Their prerogative. What can you do? Move on.

[Muscleup]

Go through the provider ads. Find L2 providers that don't require screening. Just beware, some of them might not be that exciting. But these girls will call back. Make sure they are in P411 or verified provider in ECCIE. Get a couple of dates. The good thing is the L2's are not too expensive. Once you have been serviced and get a couple of Okays in your P411. Your off to the races. Sometimes these girls don't want to take the time to prescreen you. If they have like 10 guys sending pm's from P411 along with you, they will back burner you. These girls trust P411. They just want to make sure you are not LE or some freak that does pay or is abusive. Even after a couple of L2 references you may find some of the top providers tough to get a date. But once they see a few well known provider okays, you'll have the opposite problem and you will get "Hobby ADD" like me. LOL

[joesmo888]

I have found that scheduling far ahead of time never works out

once you get to your destination then start hitting up providers.. references will help

[mattop78]

I was only looking one week out and with a need to screen I thought it not too far in advance. I had done some research before making a decision on which provider and settle on one with many great reviews and no mention of being unresponsive or difficulties with screening. But then again I guess this would not show up in a review on someone that was contacted :-). Maybe we should be able to make such comments to provide a fuller perspective on providers.
I will wait one more day and see what happens

[mattop78]

Thanks, I would agree but then she should remove statements from her website stating she welcomes newbies.

[atlcomedy]

Don't fall in love with any one provider. Always have a "Plan B" (& C & D). Even after you have successfully set an appointment with one know many things can happen.

Also, this is just personal preference, but even with pros with the best of reputations, YMMV and as a result if you've been (figuratively) fighting with her to get a date, you might find the session isn't that great, particularly if she comes into it already with a less than great initial impression of you (she is human after all, it is natural) based on the screening process.

I'd much rather book with someone that seems excited about the prospect of seeing me.

To echo someone else's counsel, move on.

[Cpalmson]

To the OP, the US is not like Europe in terms of consenting adults being allowed to freely engage in a quid pro quo when it comes to sex. Some girls are more reluctant to play with newbies without references, but as pointed out, there are lots more options out there. It sounds like you are a person of means, I'd look into purchasing a P411 subscription. You can also pay for premium access here (but that won't help you with screening). In all honesty, your best bet maybe using an agency in your destination city. Of course, do your due diligence and research. Agencies are geared to people like you in that most perform the most basics of screening and it is done on the spot without having to wait for references to clear. I'm sure agencies in major cities like NY or DC are used to foreigners coming here and looking to play.

One last thing for Muscleup, L2 probably means nothing to the OP. Most of us know what you are talking about, but someone from outside the states might be wondering what you are saying. Hell, I'm an experienced hobbyist and am not quite sure what L1, L2, L3 etc mean. Where I hobby, people use the actual acronyms for services.

[atlcomedy]

Let's assume you've already moved on from this one

Here's another suggestion to consider: figure out how to work a day trip or overnight into your nearest major metro. Get a nice hotel room in a desirable area (not necessarily in fact probably not the airport). Do your research and line up a Plan A and Plan B. You will find that your options are much better than trying to convince a gal to visit you in a remote area.

When I lived in the middle of nowhere years ago I always planned my hobbying around travel and/or would take hobby specific day trips.

Heck, you might even be able to do some sightseeing and enjoy some of our fine country beyond its pussy...

[Guest081115-1]

Originally Posted by mattop78

I am new to the US scene, as I am traveling there next week but have had many encounters in Europe. Question is on screening. I have found a provider that is very well established and I sent an email to her answering in a very polite and honest way all of her questions, real name, phone number, home location. I also made it clear that I did not have any references in the states, but would like to work with her on getting screened. Her website states that using p411, or RS2K is preferred to speed up the process but that she welcomed newbies and would work to help getting screened.
I sent an email two days ago but no answer, I suspect that I may not be welcomed for some reason, perhaps because of the lack of provider references, but I am not sure. I really want to get some advice with this and what I may be able to do/offer to work on getting screened without seeming like I am some sort of weirdo that keeps bugging her. No phone number is provided she does all via email according to her site and handles here and on TER.
Any advice on what I may be able to do to sweeten that proposal for a meeting. Maybe a public meeting first? I have initiated a membership with P411 but do not want to pay if she will not even send a reply to my initial email. Moving on to another provider will be inconvenient since I live outside a major metro area and her location is also remote and only a 45 minutes drive for me.
Thanks for any advice.

Find a provider that will take sometime to do meet and greet. This is my second option to meet someone new if all else screening I tried didn't clear. Refrain from talking BCD term and stick to normal social setting in public venues like coffee shop.

[Solitaire]

Please understand that we get all sorts of time-waster requests, jumbled in with all of the decent requests. If she received lots of them, she may have simply sorted thru and scheduled her regulars first, and more standard screening new gentlemen next, and hasn't been able to get to yours yet.

I have to admit, while I try to send out an initial "hello, thanks, and I've begun your screening" intro messages, after that, depending on how difficult their screening is, they could sit in that screening limbo for a while. And I haven't figured out a reasonable fix for this, and so far the gentlemen have been very understanding about it and appreciate that I take my time and am so safe. It is what it is.

As for your unique situation, I assume you expressed that you were from out of the country. Honestly, this is a red flag for many of us, sort of like that email from the Nigerian Prince. LOL

Are you active on boards, comparable to ECCIE in your home country? Maybe direct her there, and give her your handle so she can get a glimpse of your personality. Also, references from your own country is better than none at all - be sure to include the lady's website, and where she advertises, and if she is on any boards in your own country - or hers if you travel a lot.

I would also avoid requesting anyone to meet you in a remote area. It is a popular theme in many of our best slasher movies. I would have immediately deleted such a request.

Also, usually "newbie" screening involves employment verification. Did you provide that information to her? She may ask you for other things too like travel itinerary, copy of passport/ID, hotel reservation, etc. DO NOT give out credit card info or numbers comparable to our own social security number. As expressed before, once you get accepted by a few reputable ladies, it will be much easier afterwards, without giving out so much info.

All of these things above may help her to understand that your are not some goofy "nigerian prince", but a legitimate gentleman just wanting a little company.

Best of luck.