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Old 03-20-2015, 08:13 AM   #1
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I watched this documentary on Netflix last night. First let me say that I tend to see mature providers that do not work from hotels. That being said, how close to factual is this? They portray this world as pimps beating under-aged girls into submission; providers are just slaves to there pimps.

Now I no better that that just knowing many the great providers that I have met over the last 2 years. Many that are educated articulate ladies that the real world has no idea about them.

But I must say the dark side of the hobby that is exposed on this was shocking.
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2246924/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:31 AM   #2
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Now you understand how important ECCIE is. Just look through the backpage ads, you will see some desperation. Some are better at hiding it than others. What we seek here, is the empowering of providers. Not only making the entrepreneurs, but making them feel safe in what can be a very hazardous occupation. This community, especially in Dallas-Ft. Worth, works for us guys, for those of us who remember trolling Harry Hines and other backstreets, we know just how well, but it also has turned women who were totally dependent on their "spidey senses" into a more confident, successful group.
I think we do a good job of weeding out the "dark side" of our hobby. Hopefully, there have been women, enlightened by the opportunities that they have seen here who have rid themselves of management and come here as independents. That is my hope, and I know it is the hope of many others here, men and women. Yes, many guys here just want to find a hole, many women just want to make money, but this place is more than that for some of us. That documentary is one reason why.
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:35 AM   #3
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I've seen several different documentaries about the "profession" and they all portray it whatever way they want to fit the story they want. Some have portrayed it as a world where all the girls are doing outcalls to million dollar mansions and getting paid thousands of dollars a visit. I think every kind of environment exists in the hobby from the lowest and worst to the highest and best. I don't agree with that kind of treatment and I don't want to support it. One of the primary reasons I use eccie is to help me avoid the lowest and the worst.
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:36 AM   #4
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Bleh - More propaganda to fuel the iniative to end human trafficking (GOOD) and arrest us all in the process (BAD).

Honestly - I love watching videos about the hobby, but society tends to paint those involved in the sex industry with the same "brush".

I'll have to watch this video, and come back with some more comments.
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Old 03-20-2015, 09:15 AM   #5
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There was another documentary on the subject that I actually enjoyed. Sex for Sale: American Escort. That one I believe was less one-sided. It actually covered all angles of the profession by interviewing the indy providers, the agencies, the sex advocates, former sex workers, cops as well as the girls who were pimped. They begin the documentary by showing the more glamorous side of it with the women who charge thousands of dollars per outcall/incall and travel to Vegas. Then as the doc goes on, it shows the "other side of the tracks" literally. The viewers are taken to a rougher part of town, where you see the SW and pimps collecting money. Like I said, I think this one is a more fair portrayal of what this industry entails.
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Old 03-20-2015, 09:36 AM   #6
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Well, put mmcqtx.
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Old 03-20-2015, 10:12 AM   #7
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I really wish that documentaries would focus on what is really going on here: the sex industry (and all it's many facades), the effects of criminalization (girls with pimps), and a separate black market (trafficking). Unsurprisingly, this film lumps it all into one big hot pile of extremes.

Adoption is legal, selling a child is not. They are pretty close to the same thing, but different enough. That's how I feel about the sex industry vs trafficking. One side really is probably trying to do the right thing, and the other is clearly not or else they would have gone another, legal route. I love documentaries, but I very very rarely see a good one refarding the sex industry. Rather than letting the viewer decide, they all cram this wayward soul nonsense down your throat as if that's the only thing that's out there.

And the pimping that is such a "problem"? Would it even be a problem if the good pimps (agencies, Heidi Fleiss type madames, bookers, etc) weren't forced into being hard to find?
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Old 03-20-2015, 12:21 PM   #8
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Thanks for the info.....I love love documentaries and love a good Netflix marathon day....especially when the weather is crappy like this! 📺🎥🎥
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Old 03-21-2015, 02:38 AM   #9
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I just watched this on Netflix (the lady in that tiny pink and leopard skirt, on the phone, in the street...). Once again, they love to show the worst of the worst of the business. The street level pimps who abuse the ladies, the trafficked, etc. I sympathize with them, and wish all of that would get cleaned up, but I hate when they try to paint a picture that every single 'john' is a sleazy dirtbag who's livelihood should be taken from them. I think 90% of guys handle this business the 'right' way (non abusive). The other 10% fucks it up. I hate the fact that girls are abused and mistreated in this business, and wish that part would get cleaned up.
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Old 03-30-2015, 06:26 AM   #10
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Sadly, another outdated documentary telling the same boring story. While some of the stories are indeed tragic, the narrative is meandering, choppy, and disconnected. Then again, perhaps it's for the best to keep the general public in the dark as to how the hobby actually works these days.

(1) The pimps were outlandishly comical. Hell, it might as well be pilot series for Robert Money reality show. His pearls of business wisdom and his grandiose personality has the makings for the next Flavor of Love ratings.



(2) And what ever happened to this guy?



He's smart enough to be discrete. He does some research online (2 instantly recognizable websites are shown on his screen). He makes a call to a lady who asks for $800. Then he looks back at the website as if to verify her quote. Then the documentary cuts to another scene and we never see this guy again.
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