Small claims court?

[TownCryer]

I was always told by a former CIA G-man people lie 80% of the time. If a bill board is available close to his work place for a couple of hundred and you really want to poke the bear post your texts on it for a few weeks. Pressure from co-workers is you best chance to get any money from him. Just be sure you only post the truth. Be careful he will get angry.

[ShysterJon]

Originally Posted by TownCryer

If a bill board is available close to his work place for a couple of hundred and you really want to poke the bear post your texts on it for a few weeks. Pressure from co-workers is you best chance to get any money from him. Just be sure you only post the truth. Be careful he will get angry.

I think this is terrible advice. When a person does passive-aggressive shit like this, they are no different than than the wrongdoer. Also, fanning the flames may have all kinds of unintended consequences, none of them good and all of them unforeseeable.

[TownCryer]

Shunning is a mainstay of many social organizations to keep behavior of an individual in line with the beliefs of the group. Each individual case is different. There are many of examples of shunning having tragic consequences in recent history. Still I think shunning is a viable method of changing behavior. I have witnessed many instances when shunning works depending on the extent of the shunning and the relationship between individuals involved. Military officers use shunning to shape the behavior of men under their command. Depending on the value of the money to an individual the reward may out weigh the risk. Every plan of action has a cost, one must decide the value of the reward.

[ShysterJon]

Well, I'm shunning your horrible advice.

[The Eternal Bachelor]

Forgive his debt to you, issue an IRS Form 1099-C and let the IRS go after him for any taxes due on the cancelled debt income.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancel...8COD%29_Income

http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc431.html

[Unique_Carpenter]

EB:
So if the guy sends a letter back to IRS that disputes the 1099, does not the initiator also end up having to deal with the IRS?
This clearly falls under the definitions in Jon's comments to TC. which I also agree with.
This is a lose lose situation as it's upsetting and there's really no remedy for the amounts involved, because, as others have mentioned, not worth the effort.
All that said, I think a simple private, Voodu doll ceremony would be entirely appropriate.

[The Eternal Bachelor]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

EB:
So if the guy sends a letter back to IRS that disputes the 1099, does not the initiator also end up having to deal with the IRS?.

It depends.

1. If the UnderReporter group is sending the letter, then they may or may not accept the guy's dispute letter without contacting the initiator. They may, but likely won't, contact the initiator to provide a signed loan document or other proof to verify the validity of the 1099 she issued.

2. If the 1099 comes up during an audit of the guy on unrelated issues, the auditor will include the unreported income (assuming the guy didn't report the income on his return) and the guy may or may not dispute the 1099. He won't dispute the 1099 if he has stolen money from other providers, if he is married and his wife doesn't know about his escort hobby, or if he has any other unreported income/fraudulent deductions issues he doesn't want the IRS auditor to take a closer look at or to discover.

3. If the issue gets to the point where a Deficiency Notice has been sent or the case goes to Tax Court, the IRS generally has a presumption of correctness so the guy receiving the 1099 would have to prove that he actually paid off the loan.

4. The most likely scenario is that most people won't dispute a letter from the IRS, they'll just agree with the proposed changes and pay any additional assessments.

[Unique_Carpenter]

Intentionally ignoring your item 4, what you're saying is that the IRS will contact the initiator, as I stated they would, if he sends a dispute letter, which everyone does.

[The Eternal Bachelor]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

Intentionally ignoring your item 4, what you're saying is that the IRS will contact the initiator, as I stated they would, if he sends a dispute letter, which everyone does.

No, I'm not saying that at all.

The IRS has a lot of damn lazy people, a lot of uneducated/untrained people, a lot of "Shoot them all, let god sort them out" type of people and a lot of "Everything taxpayers say or write is a lie" type of people so there is actually a very good chance that even if the guy disputes the 1099 (I'm pretty sure he won't dispute it), the IRS person will likely go ahead and make an assessment on that 1099 income.

Keep in mind that generally no one is ever punished at the IRS for proposing or assessing taxes, interest and penalties.

[Unique_Carpenter]

EB: Seriously?
You mention that possibility in your 1st point.
Does not the IRS has procedures for everything?
It took me less than 8 seconds to find IRS Form 4598 which is what the IRS sends to the initiator when there's a 1099 dispute.

[Harold Foxcar]

Do a Barter with a man who might go and have meaningful conversation with your debtor. He could reach out to the asshole and have dialog and reach a meaningful settlement. Then, all could sing campfire songs and roast marsh mellows. Everyone wins if the butt hole gets to keep his teeth.

[ShysterJon]

Originally Posted by Harold Foxcar

Do a Barter with a man who might go and have meaningful conversation with your debtor. He could reach out to the asshole and have dialog and reach a meaningful settlement. Then, all could sing campfire songs and roast marsh mellows. Everyone wins if the butt hole gets to keep his teeth.

More hideous advice. Where did y'all go to school -- Pandora's Box College?

[Unique_Carpenter]

[The Eternal Bachelor]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

EB: Seriously?
You mention that possibility in your 1st point.
Does not the IRS has procedures for everything?
It took me less than 8 seconds to find IRS Form 4598 which is what the IRS sends to the initiator when there's a 1099 dispute.

Yes, I'm serious.

Many people have a well justified fear of dealing with the IRS so they avoid dealing with the IRS as much as possible. You were motivated to research this issue, most people, including IRS employees, are not as motivated as you.

You are correct. The IRS and many other agencies have lots of procedures and laws for everything down to the smallest detail. I also read somewhere that they derive their powers from some old piece of paper called the Constitution.

You can read about how meticulously they followed some of these procedures, laws and the Constitution at these links.

I'm sure you can find more examples.


IRS
EDITORIAL: More lawlessness at the IRS - Washington Times
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ss-at-the-irs/

TaxProf Blog: TIGTA: IRS's 17% Error Rate in Processing Amended Tax Returns Caused $2.1 Billion of Erroneous Tax Refunds
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b...ror-rate-.html

TIGTA Wants Amended Tax Return Process Updated, IRS Partially Agrees
http://cleanslatetax.com/blog/tigta-...rtially-agrees

Breitbart News says IRS targeted company for audit | Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...any-for-audit/

Latest IRS email loss evidence of out of control government under Obama - National Law Enforcement | Examiner.com
http://www.examiner.com/article/late...alerts_article

Son of Boss crackdown lands in Supreme Court | Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...80C1UC20120113

Roskam: Tough to Curtail IRS, Lerner Pattern of Corruption
http://www.newsmax.com/GeorgeWill/IR.../05/id/628423/

Image guard blamed for IRS abuses - Tulsa World: Archives
http://www.tulsaworld.com/archives/i...21c61dcfb.html

OFFICIALS OF I.R.S. ACCUSED BY PANEL OF ETHICAL LAPSES - NYTimes.com
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/07/26/bu...al-lapses.html

CNN: IRS Audited an FAA Whistleblower
http://minx.cc:1080/?post=341041


George W. Bush
"The Constitution is just a piece of paper" - G.W. Bush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmc60JmaLbE

The Bill of Rights with hyperlinks to Bush's unconstitutional acts - Democratic Underground
http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=364x2433743


Barack Obama
Obama's Insurance 'Fix' Is Unconstitutional - Breitbart
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...onstitutional/

140 Obama Crimes | Conservative Spotlight
http://conservativespotlight.com/201...bama-crimes-2/

Obamacare
Judge: Sanctions possible in Obama immigration court case - Yahoo News
http://news.yahoo.com/hearing-set-al...052210088.html


Hillary and Bill Clinton
Unconstitutional... Hillary Clinton's Position as Secretary of State | KnowTheLies.com - The Truth is Hidden in Plain View...
http://www.knowthelies.com/node/6143

State Department “Loses” $6 Billion, and No One Cares - The Last Resistance
http://lastresistance.com/5311/state...ion-one-cares/

Judge Napolitano: Hillary Clinton Has Admitted To 2 Felonies But She Won't Be Prosecuted | XRepublic
http://xrepublic.tv/node/12613

State: 'No Record' Of Clinton Signing Separation Statement [VIDEO] | The Daily Caller
http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/17/st...atement-video/

Federal employee who conceals or deletes records forbidden from holding public office:
http://investmentwatchblog.com/feder...public-office/

BREAKING NEWS: Spam Filtering Service had access to Clinton Classified Emails « Dvorak News Blog
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2015/03/1...sified-emails/

Dereliction Of Duty: The Constitutional Record of President Clinton
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-271.html

The Use and Abuse of Executive Orders and Other Presidential Directives
http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...ial-directives


Eric Holder, Dept of Justice
Eric Holder Fast and Furious
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/e...t-and-furious/

Holder: International Law Trumps The Constitution! | Conservative Daily
http://conservative-daily.com/2013/1...-constitution/


Illegal Aliens
IG: 6.5M Social Security Numbers Linked to People Aged 112 & Up
http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/03/1...e-aged-112-and

OIG Finds Illegal Aliens Fraudulently Stealing Dead People’s SSNs, Again
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...es-ssns-again/

EXCLUSIVE: TSA Allowing Illegals to Fly Without Verifiable ID, Says Border Patrol Union
http://www.breitbart.com/Texas/2014/...-Patrol-Union/


Classified information leakers
US government threatened Germany over aiding Snowden
https://www.intellihub.com/us-govern...iding-snowden/

Gen. Petraeus’s Light Punishment - NYTimes.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/op...ment.html?_r=0

State Department Whistle-Blower Alleges Double Standard | The Daily Caller
http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/17/wh...-consequences/


Law enforcement
Outrageous L.A. Court Tells Defendants: "Traffic Ticket Trials Not Allowed"
http://libertyfight.com/2014/LA_Cour...t_allowed.html

NYPD Says Innocent, Unarmed People Shot By Cops Are ‘Walking Into Police Bullets’
http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/0...olice-bullets/

FBI created counterterrorism files for plaintiffs’ innocuous activities |
http://rinf.com/alt-news/usa-news/fb...us-activities/

Two homes forcibly commandeered by police, innocent homeowners arrested | Police State USA
http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/h...ndeered-homes/


Pentagon
Rumsfeld, 9/11 and $2.3 trillion
http://www.911myths.com/html/rumsfel..._3_trilli.html

Pentagon loses track of weapons, aid given to Yemen
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...men/ar-AA9TtSe


Public safety
24,000 Chemicals may be Tainting Your Bottled Water | Natural Society
http://naturalsociety.com/24000-chem...bottled-water/

Californians disgusted by stinky black tap water; officials tell them to drink it anyway - Intellihub
https://www.intellihub.com/californi...ink-it-anyway/

Shock: Fracking Used to Inject Nuclear Waste Underground for Decades | Truthstream Media
http://truthstreammedia.com/shock-fr...d-for-decades/


DEA
DEA Agent: We Were Told Not to Enforce Drug Laws in Rich White Areas
http://bennorton.com/dea-agent-we-we...h-white-areas/

DEA INSIDER REVEALS HOW AGENCY PROTECTS DRUG TRAFFICKING FOR THE ELITE | InvestmentWatch
http://investmentwatchblog.com/dea-i...for-the-elite/

The DEA Is Seizing Cash Without Warrants In Its Version Of Stop-and-Frisk - Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/sites/institut...top-and-frisk/