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10-21-2014, 08:34 AM
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If you're going to say something about the OP why don't you get it right. My point (and it is an obvious one) is that there WERE WMDs in Iraq. Despite years of shouting, hatred, lying, and what not, they were there. The democratic party made that a part of their legend and they were wrong. This is not about Bush or Obama (later posts made them part of it) but the fact that the WMDs existed. At this time the left should apologize sincerely along with a few people on this site.
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But defense officials said Thursday that the weapons were not considered likely to be dangerous because of their age, which they determined to be pre-1991.
Pentagon officials told NBC News that the munitions are the same kind of ordnance the U.S. military has been gathering in Iraq for the past several years, and “not the WMD we were looking for when we went in this time.”
There you have it. If the word of the Bush administration isn’t enough to convince you that Bush was not right about chemical weapons in Iraq, then I’m not sure what will. And the Times report, far from vindicating George W. Bush, is actually just further proof of the gross political manipulation that lay at the heart of the disastrous conflict he started. http://www.salon.com/2014/10/15/no_bush_was_not_right_about_ir aq_how_conservatives_misread_n ew_times_bombshell/
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10-21-2014, 08:36 AM
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JD went looking for Lightening and found a Lightening Bug....somebody please tell him the difference.
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10-21-2014, 09:15 AM
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Even after you've been shown how to spell "lightning", you persist in your ignorance. Must be a metaphor for your life, WPF.
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10-21-2014, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
If you're going to say something about the OP why don't you get it right. My point (and it is an obvious one) is that there WERE WMDs in Iraq. Despite years of shouting, hatred, lying, and what not, they were there. The democratic party made that a part of their legend and they were wrong. This is not about Bush or Obama (later posts made them part of it) but the fact that the WMDs existed. At this time the left should apologize sincerely along with a few people on this site.
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Jesus Christ. You're a fine one to be hectoring others on "getting it right," aren't you?
The findings and implications detailed in the article you linked discredit, not bolster, arguments made by the George W. Bush administration during the run-up to the 2003 invasion. That's been pointed out very clearly by several others in this thread.
You would do well to make some attempt to think stuff through before posting.
(But I don't think anyone will be waiting with bated breath for that to happen!)
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10-21-2014, 02:14 PM
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George W. Bush and Bill Clinton said that Saddam Hussein had WMDs.
Clinton committed an act of war and George W. Bush went to war to rid Hussein of the weapons.
The democratic party said that the WMDs never existed and Bush was lying (conveniently forgetting Clinton).
Democrats (Dennis Kucinich) drew up documents of impeachment based on this lie.
The weapons have been found over the years. They do exist.
Bush was right (and so was slick Willie) and the democrats were wrong.
Obama knew this as well but went on with the established big lie to attack a man who had left office, a man who had told the truth, a man who continued (more effectively) what his predecessor had begun.
Now this wasn't supposed to be political but it turned into that pretty quickly.
Bush kept the secret for unknown reasons but he didn't lie about it.
Obama had the secret but he lied repeatedly about it.
Worse, Obama has allowed a group of terrorists to have access to those weapons because he can't get away from the lie.
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10-21-2014, 02:28 PM
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Judy you are running in circles squawking the same line over and over. the hole you are digging is getting deeper.
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10-21-2014, 02:32 PM
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Even after you've been shown how to spell "lightning", you persist in your ignorance. Must be a metaphor for your life, WPF.
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So says the man you can't spell WTF !!!
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10-21-2014, 02:35 PM
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Bush kept the secret for unknown reasons but he didn't lie about it.
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Damn you ignorant fuck....Bush did not keep the fact that we found old WMD's secret. What was kept secret was the fallout from handling these munitions. That was wtf the article you posted was about. You and others have tried to spin it as new news about WMD's. This was known 10 years ago. Do you understand that 10 years ago all but you knew about these so called WMD's that we did not go to war for? Ten years ago all knew but you!
The discovery of old, degraded chemical munitions in Iraq is not news. The Bush administration went to war expecting to find older weapons, along with a thriving new chemical weapons program (that didn’t exist). Ten years ago, the final report of the weapons inspectors sent to find Saddam Hussein’s WMDs (commonly known as the Duelfer Report) was released, and it noted that “a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions have been discovered” in the country, but that Iraq had not produced any new weapons.
But defense officials said Thursday that the weapons were not considered likely to be dangerous because of their age, which they determined to be pre-1991.
Pentagon officials told NBC News that the munitions are the same kind of ordnance the U.S. military has been gathering in Iraq for the past several years, and “not the WMD we were looking for when we went in this time.”
There you have it. If the word of the Bush administration isn’t enough to convince you that Bush was not right about chemical weapons in Iraq, then I’m not sure what will. And the Times report, far from vindicating George W. Bush, is actually just further proof of the gross political manipulation that lay at the heart of the disastrous conflict he started.http://www.salon.com/2014/10/15/no_bush_was_not_right_about_ir aq_how_conservatives_misread_n ew_times_bombshell/
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10-21-2014, 06:10 PM
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So says the man you can't spell WTF !!!
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WikiPostingFraud. I spelled it right.
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10-21-2014, 08:45 PM
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WikiPostingFraud. I spelled it right.
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LOL nice dodge dull knife.
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10-21-2014, 11:40 PM
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Damn you ignorant fuck....Bush did not keep the fact that we found old WMD's secret. What was kept secret was the fallout from handling these munitions. That was wtf the article you posted was about. You and others have tried to spin it as new news about WMD's. This was known 10 years ago. Do you understand that 10 years ago all but you knew about these so called WMD's that we did not go to war for? Ten years ago all knew but you!
The discovery of old, degraded chemical munitions in Iraq is not news. The Bush administration went to war expecting to find older weapons, along with a thriving new chemical weapons program (that didn’t exist). Ten years ago, the final report of the weapons inspectors sent to find Saddam Hussein’s WMDs (commonly known as the Duelfer Report) was released, and it noted that “a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions have been discovered” in the country, but that Iraq had not produced any new weapons.
But defense officials said Thursday that the weapons were not considered likely to be dangerous because of their age, which they determined to be pre-1991.
Pentagon officials told NBC News that the munitions are the same kind of ordnance the U.S. military has been gathering in Iraq for the past several years, and “not the WMD we were looking for when we went in this time.”
There you have it. If the word of the Bush administration isn’t enough to convince you that Bush was not right about chemical weapons in Iraq, then I’m not sure what will. And the Times report, far from vindicating George W. Bush, is actually just further proof of the gross political manipulation that lay at the heart of the disastrous conflict he started.http://www.salon.com/2014/10/15/no_bush_was_not_right_about_ir aq_how_conservatives_misread_n ew_times_bombshell/
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10-21-2014, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Now this wasn't supposed to be political but it turned into that pretty quickly.
Bush kept the secret for unknown reasons but he didn't lie about it.
Obama had the secret but he lied repeatedly about it.
Worse, Obama has allowed a group of terrorists to have access to those weapons because he can't get away from the lie.
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What is the problem with letting them have access to corroded weapons from the 1980's that don't work?
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10-22-2014, 12:31 AM
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LOL nice dodge dull knife.
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What was there to dodge? You're slipping, LittleEva.
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10-22-2014, 07:01 AM
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What was there to dodge? You're slipping, LittleEva.
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right...
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