Benefits of Socialism mixed with Capitalism to produce the good life for all

[Guest051115]

Originally Posted by boardman

You are incorrectly blaming capitalism for creating corrupt government. On the contrary government corrupts capitalism just the same way as it corrupt socialism. In a true capitalist society government would take a position of positive non-intervention and support Laissez faire economics. Hong Kong is probably the best example of how this works but even the Hong Kong government controls capitalism by not allowing the owning of property and therefore setting the rate that companies pay to establish and do business there. Even the communist/socialist Chinese are learning from this model and aren't fucking with Hong Kong's economy that much since they took over. In fact China is become more and more Capitalists because of the success of capitalism in Hong Kong.

Holeeee shit you're hopeless. Hong Kong really? Lol when Hong Kong govnt gets a corporate fascist such as the Koch brothers manipulting things then we can discuss. Your understanding of root causes is your fatal flaw. You're trying to make the reverse true and reaching quite a bit to do so.

[boardman]

Yes, Hong Kong, They prevent corporate fascism by letting the market take care of itself.

http://www.heritage.org/index/country/hongkong

Our government allows the cronies to exist and protects them. In turn politicians get what they need back from the cronies. Government greed , individually and collectively corrupts economic systems and creates and supports corporate greed.
Stop the protection and "regulation" and you level the playing field for all to succeed or fail on their own merits.

I am growing weary of explaining government and economics to you. Run along now.

[Guest051115]

Originally Posted by boardman

Yes, Hong Kong, They prevent corporate fascism by letting the market take care of itself.

http://www.heritage.org/index/country/hongkong

Our government allows the cronies to exist and protects them. In turn politicians get what they need back from the cronies. Government greed , individually and collectively corrupts economic systems and creates and supports corporate greed.
Stop the protection and "regulation" and you level the playing field for all to succeed or fail on their own merits.

I am growing weary of explaining government and economics to you. Run along now.

If you say so. I will give you credit for one thing Boardman. At least you're willing to try to defend your position I can respect that. Your idiot brothers IB Hamkering and Barleycorn are simply base level red meat carnivores they add nothing of value or substance.

Nice doing business with ya

[pyramider]

If socialism is so great why is it a failure at every turn? None have staying power. USSR lasted maybe 80 years. China lasted around 75 years, still somewhat socialist but more capitalist. North Korea, there is a winner ... Cuba, is waiting for Fidel to die to open its doors.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

If you say so. I will give you credit for one thing Boardman. At least you're willing to try to defend your position I can respect that. Your idiot brothers IB Hamkering and Barleycorn are simply base level red meat carnivores they add nothing of value or substance.

Nice doing business with ya

Yeah, zany, you couldn't refute the commentary of a picture depicting a Siberian breadline that typified the wholesale failure of socialism, so you stupidly resort to dismissing it as "nothing of value". Well zany, you're obviously wearing Kool Aid blinders, and it's your POV that has "no value".

[IIFFOFRDB]

Better title would be "Communists expose themselves on the Political forum".

[JD Barleycorn]

Deb, do you know who those corporate power brokers are? They are a lot of different people. Yes, there are some very rich people but also some people who are putting a little money away for retirement. Why do you think you have a right to take it away? Why do you want to give someone else (your proxy) the power to take away someone's money? If you don't like the "rich corporate power brokers" then don't buy their product. No one is forcing anyone to contribute to the well being of the Walton family.

And Zansa Stark can suck my dick which I'm pretty sure is not unusual for you.

Here is a question for Deb; given the choice between Wendy Davis and Greg Abbott, who would you vote for?

[Guest051115]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Deb, do you know who those corporate power brokers are? They are a lot of different people. Yes, there are some very rich people but also some people who are putting a little money away for retirement. Why do you think you have a right to take it away? Why do you want to give someone else (your proxy) the power to take away someone's money? If you don't like the "rich corporate power brokers" then don't buy their product. No one is forcing anyone to contribute to the well being of the Walton family.

And Zansa Stark can suck my dick which I'm pretty sure is not unusual for you.

Here is a question for Deb; given the choice between Wendy Davis and Greg Abbott, who would you vote for?

Me sucking dick. Yea right. You better check my lastest all-star review son and get your facts straight. ;-) old country boy

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by pyramider

If socialism is so great why is it a failure at every turn? None have staying power. USSR lasted maybe 80 years. China lasted around 75 years, still somewhat socialist but more capitalist. North Korea, there is a winner ... Cuba, is waiting for Fidel to die to open its doors.

Not to mention the 70 million people who have died under Socialist empires.


Jim

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by HoustonMilfDebbie

In other words, "the people should be allowed to participate in equal measures".

No money involved. What if money was not involved?

English is very simple (just look at the core). Looks like Algebra.

People should participate in equal measures...please elaborate.

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

Me sucking dick. Yea right. You better check my lastest all-star review son and get your facts straight. ;-) old country boy

An "old country boy" would not advocate socialism. So do you swallow or spit?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by boardman

You are incorrectly blaming capitalism for creating corrupt government. On the contrary government corrupts capitalism just the same way as it corrupt socialism. .

You do understand that the people are government and that there is no such thing as true capitalism or even true socialism because people will always be corrupt.

Question which came first the chicken or the egg or in this equation corrupt government or corrupt capitalism/socialism?

You are forgetting the most important ingredient in any form of government, people.

[CuteOldGuy]

People are not the government anymore.