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09-26-2014, 12:16 AM
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Judge orders Fast & Furious documents released
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09-26-2014, 12:25 AM
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09-26-2014, 12:43 AM
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Now it makes sense. At least he is saving us the trouble of impeachment proceedings.
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09-26-2014, 05:25 PM
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From your link.
The scandal deals with a controversial practice known as “gunwalking,” in which federal agents allow illegally purchased weapons to flow to high-volume arms dealers in an attempt to identify and track their whereabouts.
The practice is prohibited by the Justice Department, but the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives made use of it at the end of George W. Bush’s administration and the beginning of Mr. Obama’s as part of an operation known as “Fast and Furious.”
Bush would go to jail before Holder.
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09-26-2014, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by flghtr65
From your link.
The scandal deals with a controversial practice known as “gunwalking,” in which federal agents allow illegally purchased weapons to flow to high-volume arms dealers in an attempt to identify and track their whereabouts.
The practice is prohibited by the Justice Department, but the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives made use of it at the end of George W. Bush’s administration and the beginning of Mr. Obama’s as part of an operation known as “Fast and Furious.”
Bush would go to jail before Holder.
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As usual, you're quite wrong, flighty, and unlike you and stupidly biased reporters, flighty, the evidence will speak for itself.
From Holder's own office report, flighty:
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On October 31, 2009, special agents working in the Phoenix office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) received information from a local gun store about the recent purchases of multiple AK-47 style rifles by four individuals. Agents began investigating the purchasesand soon came to believe that the men were so-called “straw purchasers” involved in a large-scale gun trafficking organization responsible for buying guns for transport to violent Mexican drug trafficking organizations. This investigation was later named “Operation Fast and Furious” (p. 1).
Operation Wide Receiver was conducted in two parts between March 2006 and December 2007 by agents in ATF’s Tucson Office, which is part of ATF’s Phoenix Field Division (p. 28)
CHAPTER FOUR
OPERATION FAST AND FURIOUS
I. Introduction
In this Chapter we describe ATF’s firearms trafficking investigation known as Operation Fast and Furious, and the operational and oversight roles played by the ATF Phoenix Field Division and the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Arizona.80
The consequences of adhering to this strategy for several months without modification were extraordinary. During the course of the investigation, Operation Fast and Furious subjects were responsible for purchasing nearly 2,000 firearms for $1.5 million, hundreds of which were recovered in the United States and Mexico. The vast majority of these purchases were made by individuals after ATF agents had identified them as suspects. Yet there were no arrests or indictments in the case until it was learned that two weapons found at the scene of Customs and Border Protection Agent Brian Terry’s December 14, 2010, murder had been purchased by an Operation Fast and Furious subject who agents had identified in November 2009, and who had bought the two guns found at scene in January 2010. For the reasons described in this chapter, we concluded that the individuals at ATF and the U.S. Attorney’s Office responsible for Operation Fast and Furious failed to conduct the investigation with the urgency, oversight, and attention to public safety that was required by an investigation that involved such extraordinary and consequential firearms trafficking activity.
The [Fast and Furious] investigation began at the end of October 2009 when agents obtained information about some suspicious firearms purchases made from a Phoenix-area Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL). By the end of the year, agents had identified a significant firearms trafficking group operating in the Phoenix area that was responsible for the purchase of over 600 firearms for approximately $350,000. However, for reasons described in this Chapter, ATF and the U.S. Attorney’s Office [Holder's office, flighty] agreed on a longer term investigative strategy that broke from the traditional approach of confronting suspected straw purchasers. Instead, the offices deferred taking action against the subjects who had been identified in order to pursue a larger case, primarily through the use of several wiretaps, that sought to dismantle the entire trafficking group and identify how the firearms were being paid for and transported to Mexico (p. 103).
http://www.justice.gov/oig/reports/2012/s1209.pdf
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09-26-2014, 07:21 PM
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Bush would go to jail before Holder.
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BINGO
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09-26-2014, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Zanzibar789
BINGO
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Here's "BINGO" for you, zany. And Holder's office wrote it for you to suck on and gag, jackass!
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On October 31, 2009, special agents working in the Phoenix office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) received information from a local gun store about the recent purchases of multiple AK-47 style rifles by four individuals. Agents began investigating the purchasesand soon came to believe that the men were so-called “straw purchasers” involved in a large-scale gun trafficking organization responsible for buying guns for transport to violent Mexican drug trafficking organizations. This investigation was later named “Operation Fast and Furious” (p. 1).
Operation Wide Receiver was conducted in two parts between March 2006 and December 2007 by agents in ATF’s Tucson Office, which is part of ATF’s Phoenix Field Division (p. 28)
CHAPTER FOUR
OPERATION FAST AND FURIOUS
I. Introduction
In this Chapter we describe ATF’s firearms trafficking investigation known as Operation Fast and Furious, and the operational and oversight roles played by the ATF Phoenix Field Division and the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Arizona.80
The consequences of adhering to this strategy for several months without modification were extraordinary. During the course of the investigation, Operation Fast and Furious subjects were responsible for purchasing nearly 2,000 firearms for $1.5 million, hundreds of which were recovered in the United States and Mexico. The vast majority of these purchases were made by individuals after ATF agents had identified them as suspects. Yet there were no arrests or indictments in the case until it was learned that two weapons found at the scene of Customs and Border Protection Agent Brian Terry’s December 14, 2010, murder had been purchased by an Operation Fast and Furious subject who agents had identified in November 2009, and who had bought the two guns found at scene in January 2010. For the reasons described in this chapter, we concluded that the individuals at ATF and the U.S. Attorney’s Office responsible for Operation Fast and Furious failed to conduct the investigation with the urgency, oversight, and attention to public safety that was required by an investigation that involved such extraordinary and consequential firearms trafficking activity.
The [Fast and Furious] investigation began at the end of October 2009 when agents obtained information about some suspicious firearms purchases made from a Phoenix-area Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL). By the end of the year, agents had identified a significant firearms trafficking group operating in the Phoenix area that was responsible for the purchase of over 600 firearms for approximately $350,000. However, for reasons described in this Chapter, ATF and the U.S. Attorney’s Office [Holder's office, flighty] agreed on a longer term investigative strategy that broke from the traditional approach of confronting suspected straw purchasers. Instead, the offices deferred taking action against the subjects who had been identified in order to pursue a larger case, primarily through the use of several wiretaps, that sought to dismantle the entire trafficking group and identify how the firearms were being paid for and transported to Mexico (p. 103).
http://www.justice.gov/oig/reports/2012/s1209.pdf
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09-26-2014, 07:36 PM
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fuckers...
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09-26-2014, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by flghtr65
From your link.
The scandal deals with a controversial practice known as “gunwalking,” in which federal agents allow illegally purchased weapons to flow to high-volume arms dealers in an attempt to identify and track their whereabouts.
The practice is prohibited by the Justice Department, but the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives made use of it at the end of George W. Bush’s administration and the beginning of Mr. Obama’s as part of an operation known as “Fast and Furious.”
Bush would go to jail before Holder.
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Jesus, Fluffy. That has been disproven many times on here. Pay attention. But I agree, Bush should go to prison, too. I don't care what order they go in. As long as they take Cheney, Rummy and Obama with them.
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09-26-2014, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
Jesus, That has been disproven many times on here. Pay attention. But I agree, Bush should go to prison, too. I don't care what order they go in. As long as they take Cheney, Rummy and Obama with them.
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COF, the reality is neither Bush, Obama or their AG's will go to jail. Go take your meds and go back to sleep. Operation wide receiver and Fast and Furious were prohibited by the DOJ but happened anyway. The agents in the Arizona field office who ran 'Fast and Furious' were demoted and reassigned.
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09-26-2014, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SEE3772
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Originally Posted by flghtr65
COF, the reality is neither Bush, Obama or their AG's will go to jail. Go take your meds and go back to sleep. Operation wide receiver and Fast and Furious were prohibited by the DOJ but happened anyway. The agents in the Arizona field office who ran 'Fast and Furious' were demoted and reassigned.
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What a Dim stooge you are flighty. There is no relationship between those two programs. For F&F the Mexican govt was not told and there was no way to track the guns. Also the Obama admin tried to use F&F as a reason to implement more gun control on US citizens.
Most importantly, the ATF folks who knew about the program, tactically approved it, lied to congress about approving about it and covered it up.
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09-27-2014, 12:26 AM
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There is no relationship between those two programs. For F&F the Mexican govt was not told and there was no way to track the guns.
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You idiot, the Arizona ATF field office ran both programs, that's the relationship. Everyone knows that the agents took a more aggressive approach with Fast and Furious because operation wide receiver failed to catch the bad guys and bring them to justice. Now go vote for Ted Cruz or the repubtard of your choice in next presidential election.
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09-27-2014, 01:02 AM
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That's it? Some of the programs ran guns out of some of the same local offices? Stooge.
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