Arrangement Negotiations

[Tiffani Jameson]

Originally Posted by CompanionSofia

I don't mind negotiating when I feel like my time is still being valued. And I probably wouldn't ever negotiate with a new friend.

Example

Lets say a providers fee is 100/hr (just an example)
Don't ask for a discount of $75/hr
Ask for $65/hh or 85$/45min

Just my $.02

Girl, that is a TERRIBLE example! If I had a $100 rate, he'd better not have the balls to haggle with me! LOL At those rates/time increments, haggling and valuing time is an oxymoron.

While I'm inclined to agree with Mr. Bald Brotha on this matter, it depends on the lady. If the proposal is still doable, like his offer for 250 on a 350 rate, I can understand why a lady would take it. 250 is better than 0.

But personally, I've never appreciated a negotiator, especially one that I've never met before. With those I know that do their best to meet with me regularly, I have offered a special rate to make it easy for them. But I feel that's for me to initiate.

Mr. Quagmire said it best. This is a gentleman's hobby. Mostly because a gentleman understands that there's more to this than just an exchange of services. I'd like to think of it as a mutual exchange of happiness. You make her happy, she makes you happy.

[Buff069]

Originally Posted by baldbrotha

Buff069, pay the donation requested or don't contact the Provider. As you mentioned, you have several companies and you bid jobs? You give them a fair bid and you don't expect them to come back to you and lower it.

Just to set this straight

I have 17 Okays, plus 2 I didn't request Okays from, Several ladies I have seen more than once but did not request 2nd or 3rd okays, plus 5 or 6 from BP since October 2013. For the most part I have seen 2 or 3 ladies a week since then. I paid everyones asking price. It was only one provider I was bantering back and forth with, that wound up with a discounted price. That got me think about supply and demand, since one of my regular providers said she had not had a call in a week (well reviewed and a nice lady). Not to mention this subject has gotten 3 pages worth of discussion, which is what the forums are for.

Yes I do have my favorites. Yes I do check provider ads here and on P411 for ladies running "Specials". Ladies if you are advertising "Specials" put in your ad what is special. Discount for a limited time, Longer time for same money, etc. When you say you have a special, what is special from your normally advertised service.

Buff

[Guest070714-2]

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

Girl, that is a TERRIBLE example! If I had a $100 rate, he'd better not have the balls to haggle with me! LOL At those rates/time increments, haggling and valuing time is an oxymoron.

The $100 was, like I said, only an example.
I didn't wanna post my rates (to not give anyone negotiation ideas) and mental math made more sense with an even $100.
Of course no one should be charging that nowadays, and if they are well then negotiations wouldn't be necessary.

I do also agree with the "gentleman's hobby" statement.

[OldGrump]

Originally Posted by CompanionSofia

I don't mind negotiating when I feel like my time is still being valued. And I probably wouldn't ever negotiate with a new friend.

Example

Lets say a providers fee is 100/hr (just an example)
Don't ask for a discount of $75/hr
Ask for $65/hh or 85$/45min

Just my $.02

I'm old + I'm friendly = Old Friend. And I sincerely appreciate, even treasure any time you care to share.

Back to the subject, I've always wondered how enthusiastic a lady would be if she had been negotiated to a lower rate than she felt she was worth. Some run specials and make offers that are below their posted rates. When it is voluntary and initiated from her end, jump on it (her). Otherwise, pay her rate or find someone in your price range.

[Jessica Jade]

Originally Posted by Glenn Quagmire

This is a gentleman's hobby. If you can't afford to play, then forget about it or become a hate monger.

Seriously.. You have no leverage to haggle and yu will not get good service if you talk a lady down on her 1 hour rate.

If you wish to do extended sessions and spend time with them on dinner and shows, then negotiating a multi-hour date is not out of the norm. Such negotiations generally take place after you have seen them a few times at their normal 1 or two hour rate.

It takes respect, tact, and not pitching a fit if you don't get the answer you are looking for.

It's a simple transaction. They have a price for the standard date. if you can't afford it, don't ask. After you get to "know" each other, frequent flyer deals can be made.

For example, I have an ATF I have seen for a number of years. If she texts me asking for a "quickie", it is understood that the rate is $100. If I call her asking for a session, the rate is $200. Her last quickie, I tipped her with a gift worth several hundred dollars because she is worth it and I appreciate the arrangement.

Damn!! Hi my name is jessica

[Stanfeld]

I purpose $10 off the listed price for each non-contiguous tattoo.

[outoftheblue]

I would be suspect of anyone who dropped their fee because of a request. If they do, it is saying I really wasn't worth that much in the first place.

[LickHer]

Originally Posted by outoftheblue

I would be suspect of anyone who dropped their fee because of a request. If they do, it is saying I really wasn't worth that much in the first place.

I have received "discounts" from several very highly regarded providers. One, who is 300/hr agreed to 100/hhr in responding to a PM I posted. She knew a provider I'd seen before, needed $ quickly and made me promise to write a review and say I paid her full price. Once I saw her, we seemed to "click" and she agreed to see me at that rate occasionally as long as I didn't "abuse it"
I've had several "high end girls(that needed $) respond to my ISOs (via PM) that are willing to do what I asked for in the ISO as long as I kept the discounted rate to myself.

[Buff069]

I think she just made my list.

[1Jannessa]

You are certainly correct in your response. I have changed my rates at least twice due to the fact that I came from a studio environment to an Inde provider and then back and then back again. That plays a huge role in the value a girl sets her time at, but no matter which status I'm at, studio or Inde, for those gents that have been "loyal/regulars" (that I have seen on multiple occasions) through various price changes I do "grandfather" them in at the rate they initially started seeing me at. Usually though those gents that I would consider grandfathered generally dont mind paying the new rate but I tell them up front when I change establishments that if the "houses" rates are out of their budget I will accept the lowere rate. Also as mentioned in this thread girls often appreciate the offer if they have spare time that is not being used and there happens to be a need for extra cash. But this is usually something you want to do with a provider that you see regularly or use the Req's & ISO forum. Another great tip that I saw mentioned is if you're going to offer less cash than provider's posted rate ask for perhaps a shorter time, who knows she may be willing to give you the full hour or half hour simply for being so considerate with you request.

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

Buff, with multiple businesses you're likely pretty solvent.

Another way to look at it is being you're relatively new you haven't had the time to establish some regulars. Often as time goes on ladies change their rates to keep up with inflation and in many cases, regulars get grand fathered at their original rate.

During my time in the hobby I've had several girls tell me seeing regulars is much more preferred for a variety of reasons and they gleefully offer deals to them kinda like what baby says above..

Works both ways. I do things for regulars I wouldn't normally offer a one time lady - trips, Christmas bonuses, her: " My nails look awful " - me: " you got time to go to the salon, it's on me ", gambling money if we visit a casino, etc. Hell, bought one half a car the other day and she's golden in the payback ( not recommended, it just works sometimes ).

So, my comment is to get someone or a few you mesh with and let the relationship(s) grow wings!

[azzlover]

Better question: What about an arrangement for $1500 a month prepaid for unlimited access. This cuts down on all the BS for the provider and you have a lower rate. Maybe set a limit of 10 visits/month.

Whatta yah say girls?

Before anyone answers "thats marriage"....marraige is $4000 a month and no access.

[commonreality]

Originally Posted by baldbrotha

Buff069, pay the donation requested or don't contact the Provider. As you mentioned, you have several companies and you bid jobs? You give them a fair bid and you don't expect them to come back to you and lower it.

A fair bid is in the eyes of the bidder and the receiver. Just because a females asking price is $500 doesn't mean she's worth it. It's human nature to shoot for the stars. I say what is fair is what they will accept.

Point in mind is Kimberly J in ft worth. I realize it's a body rub, but it's $100 flat fee and she is outstanding. And stays booked up. She's probably making an easy $2000 a week and everyone is happy. Customers and her. Just saying.

[Gentlemen Rendezvous]

You go with the rate as directed, if not, don't play.

My only change to that policy is if the time duration/activity is not listed.
Then it is in her court, just let her respond, such as,

"I would like to do a three hour dinner date, since that option is not listed, is that available and at what rate?"

Negotiations kill the experience, IMO

[1Jannessa]

Originally Posted by azzlover

Better question: What about an arrangement for $1500 a month prepaid for unlimited access. This cuts down on all the BS for the provider and you have a lower rate. Maybe set a limit of 10 visits/month.

Whatta yah say girls?

Before anyone answers "thats marriage"....marraige is $4000 a month and no access.

Actually thats more close to an SD/SB arrangement than marriage. And youre right marriage is more expensive (& more stressful). Sounds like the perfect arrangement for me. Since I'm in school now Mon-Fri I dont really have time to maintain advertising and an incall (along with my other usual life obligations) so a consistent arrangement such as that would certainly be beneficial to a low volume provider who may essentially make more "IF" they saw X number of gents at their regular rate. Having said all that what you may wanna do is seek a SB and make an arrangement that would be comfortable for both of you.