off the "clock" or "on the clock"?

[Dorian Gray]

Originally Posted by Daddio

Just fuck her for 4 hours dude!! Dancing is for gay boys anyway!!

That's quite the naive statement. You have no idea how much puss gets thrown at men who can dance.

[surcher]

Originally Posted by Dorian Gray

That's quite the naive statement. You have no idea how much puss gets thrown at men who can dance.

100% correct! So I'm fucked in that department.

It depends on the lady and your relationship with her. For some, there is nothing off the clock. If it's your first date, be prepared to pay. If you're a regular, dancing may be off the clock. I've spent five ours with a couple of ladies when only one was considered on the clock. We simply enjoyed each other's company. I tipped and bought dinner. Then again, it was a different time, yet not that many years ago.

[spice-is-nice]

YMMV for sure on this sort of thing, and definitely up to the woman you are seeing, not subject to negotiation as far as I am concerned.

As others have said, just be clear beforehand. Personally I don't see a problem with asking the question whether some non-BCD activity would be full rate, reduced rate, or off the clock--especially if it is someone you've seen more than once and the personal chemistry seems good--and boundaries are clear.

I wouldn't consider social time with a provider unless I already knew her enough to think I would enjoy that. From time to time, I do invite the lady to grab something to eat after we are done (usually 90 minutes or longer BCD), off the clock--usually mentioned in pre-meeting emails. I seek out smart, mature providers, who tend to be low volume. In that context, I'd say it's about 50-50 on them saying yes. I always make it clear that I have no expectation that they do so.

Occasionally it has worked the other way, where the lady has made the offer, which I have accepted if I had enough discreet time to spend. This is in the context of me being someone who typically finds a few partners he likes and sees them many times. I've been invited to hang out, go out to eat, go out to a movie, take her to an art exhibition, and even sleep over (actual sleep, LOL, with snuggling).

We are all human beings, and I treasure it when we've enjoyed each other's company enough to spend some social time off the clock, but, again, I never expect it.

[RGB93]

If providers would wear a Taxi meter that would solve the problem, that way you can stop when you run out of money.

[Sofia Simms]

Is this even a real question??! ....Dammit, Sofia, don't use the quick-reply button

[Eccie Addict]

Originally Posted by Dorian Gray

That's quite the naive statement. You have no idea how much puss gets thrown at men who can dance.

What's sad is that statement is true even for guys that dance like Carlton lol.

[lostincypress]

Make an offer that can't be refused.

[Daddio]

Hey DG, I realize how much snatch gets thrown at the dancing pansies. As you can see I am a little bit jealous of them. I used to shake a leg pretty good back in the day and have even considered taking some dancing lessons to benefit from this pussy bonanza for dancers. I checked out Melody's but did not follow thru because I ain't got any sugar in my britches. I could be talked into taking dance lessons by any number of the ladies on here however. Back in the Urban Cowboy days I was a 2 stepping mfer, even did that "what's on your shoe?, Bullshit" dance.

I need to go to a shrink to see if I was a flaming Cowboy!! Fuck it , I will do the Billy Idol and dance with myself so none of you fuckers can see me!! Suck it!! LOL.

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by spice-is-nice

YMMV for sure on this sort of thing, and definitely up to the woman you are seeing, not subject to negotiation as far as I am concerned..................... .............

.............................. ..........Occasionally it has worked the other way, where the lady has made the offer, which I have accepted if I had enough discreet time to spend. This is in the context of me being someone who typically finds a few partners he likes and sees them many times. I've been invited to hang out, go out to eat, go out to a movie, take her to an art exhibition, and even sleep over (actual sleep, LOL, with snuggling).

It's definitely a YMMV kind of thing. I have had lunches and dinners, etc off the clock many times with several clients. I was paid regularly at or near my hourly rate for social time. But bottom line, to have a healthy business, you need to enjoy what you do. If you enjoy your clients' time and you have the time what's wrong with lunch or a drink afterwards.

Besides, ladies need several different products. Not all clients can be big spenders. Some clients are kind and wonderful one hour regulars that show up on time, freshly showered and sweet breath and pay your hourly rate because they want to see YOU. What's the harm in having lunch or giving them some extra time.

[jbravo_123]

[Fancyinheels]

I'm pretty relaxed on timekeeping to begin with, but since I am being compensated for TIME, what happens within that time is immaterial. I do get a wee bit weary hearing gentlemen say they are paying for sex and only sex. I am a professional COMPANION, which includes the sensual arts and fulfilling fantasies in brief respites from the rat race to whole wanton weekends of wickedness.

I offer a dinner date package for just such an occasion where a specific evening event is planned. I find those longer, leisurely, no-rush evenings establish a better connection, and are very enjoyable. That doesn't mean that I don't occasionally meet someone out for lunch or a drink beforehand "off the clock," or won't go to dinner spur of the moment following an enthusiastic session requiring energy replacement. I've also gone on shopping trips with gentlemen just to buy toys, liquor, or lingerie for later use during the "compensated" time, or in one case, to buy a birthday present for the fellow's wife when he forgot!

Olivia has the right idea. A lady has to be flexible both in and out of the boudoir.

[spear88]

The way to do this is just put together a package that contains some fun things, some bedroom things and a certain amount of money then pitch the idea and see if a provider likes it. For instance there are several times when providers have gone to casino's for a day with a hobbyist for a set price.

Maybe a hobbyist would like to go to a movie or a ball game and then have a session. Just pitch the idea out there and see who would like to take you up and then negotiate.

[Fancyinheels]

Originally Posted by spear88

The way to do this is just put together a package that contains some fun things, some bedroom things and a certain amount of money then pitch the idea and see if a provider likes it. For instance there are several times when providers have gone to casino's for a day with a hobbyist for a set price.

Maybe a hobbyist would like to go to a movie or a ball game and then have a session. Just pitch the idea out there and see who would like to take you up and then negotiate.

Excellent thought! I've been offering "event" suggestions and Renaissance Festival packages on my website for years under the Fanciful Field Trips tab. I've always been negotiable on something unique and adventurous that takes me out of my normal playground.