The Obstacles to Sex

[Guest020916-3]

Originally Posted by Snuggles

true intimacy and passion.

great sex isnt about possitions, or normal/abnormal...or anu such nonsense.

the greates sex I have had I dont even remember possitions, did I throw a lil hip rotation in , did I do X that she says she likes. I just melted into my lady. and we were a rolling ball of passion. Sweaty, sticky, I was just in her arms. We both just passed out, wet sheets n all.


aaah...just the thought...I miss her.

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[JessicaKnightly]

Originally Posted by Snuggles

true intimacy and passion.

great sex isnt about possitions, or normal/abnormal...or anu such nonsense.

the greates sex I have had I dont even remember possitions, did I throw a lil hip rotation in , did I do X that she says she likes. I just melted into my lady. and we were a rolling ball of passion. Sweaty, sticky, I was just in her arms. We both just passed out, wet sheets n all.


aaah...just the thought...I miss her.

Aaahhhh yessss! I love that! All sex is good sex, but true intimacy and passion is what is needed for great sex!

Now, your description is so familiar, I almost want to ask, "do I know you?"

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

Hello ,
What, therefore, are some of the things that get in the way of that mythic ideal: great sex?"

My greatest obstacle to sex is waiting to you to schedule a US trip.

[London Rayne]

None of that shit happens here for me...IJS. TRUE intimacy will never come from a married man who paid me to fk him, whilst he has wife at home. Ooops..too honest? Sorry...

[JessicaKnightly]

Originally Posted by London Rayne

None of that shit happens here for me...IJS. TRUE intimacy will never come from a married man who paid me to fk him, whilst he has wife at home. Ooops..too honest? Sorry...

But, London he may be in a unhappy, unloving, marriage without any intimacy and you may be someone very special and important in his life. Can you not love someone whom you know you will never have?

I have very special connections with a couple married men. I know they will never leave their wives, nor would I ever want that. But, they need me (or someone) to connect with, to share with, to cry with, to laugh with - not just to fk. And I reserve a special place in my heart for these dear sweet men. They are more than clients or friends, they are lovers. Sure they pay me, but there is an emotional connection, a real relationship that goes beyond p4p.

[London Rayne]

Um, no I can't, and won't. I am a hooker in the true sense of the word lol. I am not a muse, a confidant or a damn courtesan. I sell jokes, and blowjobs...that other shit they can get from you bwahahahaha. I don't invest my HEART and SOUL in this BUSINESS, and never will. I have no need, and the men who pay me also keep it on that level. Friendship and love are not the same thing. I do not want to "borrow" anything from another woman's husband. If a guy starts crying when he is only paying me for a few hours, I am going to kick him out...I am not a mommy or a damn shrink. Just saying. If he needs all THAT, he should find Jesus, not a hooker.

[NinaBrooke]

For me the line is somewhere between Jessica and London. I don`t think true intimacy is possible in a p4p, but I also don`t think that a p4p relationship is limited to just sex and it is something you can also invest heart and soul - at least to some limit. I have some special connnectins with clients as well, but have learned over time that a "true" connection cannot exist in a paid encounter, and taht is because I see escorting as a form of therapy. A therapeutical context with one giver and one taker. I know things are not as black and white, but in the end it comes out for that. And the one that "takes" is the one that pays , usually. If you see clients in the contexts they are in, and don`t have them pay you, people soon realize the difference I am talking about. I would not confuse "love" "dating" or "true intimacy" with an escort encounter, but of course there are resemblances and a special connection can happen within limitations, of course.
The clients I have invited in my private life, with whom I have a "true" friendship, are not clients anymore and will never again be some. There is a reason for that.

[John Bull]

The clients I have invited in my private life, with whom I have a "true" friendship, are not clients anymore and will never again be some.

Nina, can one reasonably infer from your statement that you have ex-clients who you still see sexually but who no longer pay you for your time? If that is a true statement, then overall, how has that worked out for you and for them?

[Ed Highlight]

Originally Posted by John Bull

Nina, can one reasonably infer from your statement that you have ex-clients who you still see sexually but who no longer pay you for your time? If that is a true statement, then overall, how has that worked out for you and for them?

...just sayin'....

[NorthWood]

Originally Posted by pyramider

Rejection is not an issue for the men. We have grown up with rejection all thru our formative years into puberty, high school, and life in general. We become immune to rejection. Taint that a wonderful thing.

I agree that men have grown up with rejection, but disagree that is is not an issue or that we have all grown immune to rejection. I've been rejected plenty (in the "real" world, not in hobbyland) and it still causes a deep psychological wound. I cover it better, and pretty much try not to let it show*, and of course, I can always find someone of interest here and arrange to meet her on p411. But that is apples and oranges ....

(*) It seems to me that one of the developments for the worse over time has been the idea or ethos that one is not supposed to give a shit, or appear to give a shit, about rejection, etc. I think this results in many people seemingly not appearing to give a shit about any real situation that would reveal themselves to be a sensitive human.

[Justinbeavers]

I agree with a lot that has been said here. I think one of the biggest limitations for me has been just not knowing many people socially. Anxiety and lack of confidence comes when you don't have sex for a while. And rejection is definitely something I am not immune to, at least not outside of the hobby. But I suggest that everyone follow their dreams, do not let boundaries keep you from reaching your goals. I went for many years without having sex after I broke up with my girlfriend but then today I met a provider for the first time ever and fulfilled a sexual fantasy I have had for a long time, and had sex with a black girl. I feel amazing now. And I know there are ways to overcome these obstacles.

[SexyPlatinum]

I like this thread I might bring a theory into this but have to sit read some more maybe read it over a couple of times and understand before I give my statement it is really good to know there is some people on here that think like a real person. Will post soon on here