In the Dark Recesses of the Human Mind

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by Old Dingus

While it may be wrong to give you attention by responding, I shall.

You seem to be alone in defining this as "police state tactics." The vast majority does not share your view. Are you suggesting they are all wrong and you are correct? Yes. Exactly.

It was not "one teenager." There were believed to be two terrorists, who had killed three and severely wounded a couple hundred more. It was unknown, but reasonable to believe taht there were others acting in concert with the two known terrorists. So, if there is more than one, government can declare martial law. Interesting.

There was every reson to believe the two known terrorists were armed and dangerous. To not presume this would be ridiculous. The terrorists were resonably believed (or perhaps known at that time) to be at large in the neighborhoods or on University campus. How many "armed and dangerous" criminals are roaming the streets of every community? Shall we shut them all down to find them?

There are no comparisons to Stockholm Syndrome as it is known. Duh. Wrong.

The Founding Fathers had laws and believed in law enforcement. Like it or not, you are protected by those laws. They believed in liberty above all else. That is why there are restraints against "law enforcement" in the Constitution. They feared government more than there peers.

Old Dingus

OD, you are part of the problem.

[LordBeaverbrook]

Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer

They stopped the Nazi's from killing us all, as I recall, during World War II - so I think they are fine fellows.

Certainly, but I'm just sayin' most Americans would have rather not dealt with it until they had to and only did so after they could ignore it no longer. This is far better than the Nazis, but certainly not very laudable behavior.

Many in the Administration and military heard rumors or knew some of the details early on, but no one spent any effort on finding out the full truth or publicizing it until the GIs liberated the camps and then everyone was "horrified". In fact leaders were concerned that if too much was known about the Nazi camps that there could be backlash from fringe groups. The first released news of the Nazi concentration camps was Nov. 1942 on p. 10. Finally, on January 22, 1944, the president issued Executive Order 9417, creating the War Refugee Board (WRB).

The establishment of the board did not resolve all the problems blocking American rescue efforts. For example, the War Department repeatedly refused to bomb Nazi concentration camps or the railroads leading to them. Estimates indicate that the WRB may have saved as many as 200,000 Jews. One can only speculate how many more might have been saved had the WRB been established in August 1942.



The American public discovered the full extent of the Holocaust only when the Allied armies liberated the extermination and concentration camps at the end of World War II. And as historians struggled to understand what had happened, attention increasingly focused on the inadequate American response and what lay behind it.

Again, just sayin'

[CuteOldGuy]

Geez, you too, austx? Here's the article you failed to cite. You know, the one you plagiarized from? You don't really have any original thoughts, do you? Oh, well. Another phony busted.

From the article:

The establishment of the board did not resolve all the problems blocking American rescue efforts. For example, the War Department repeatedly refused to bomb Nazi concentration camps or the railroads leading to them. But the WRB did successfully develop a number of rescue projects. Estimates indicate that the WRB may have saved as many as 200,000 Jews. One WRB operative, Raoul Wallenberg, technically a Swedish diplomat in Budapest, provided at least 20,000 Jews with Swedish passports and protection. One can only speculate how many more might have been saved had the WRB been established in August 1942, when Gerhart Riegner's message reached the United States.

http://www.history.com/topics/americ...-the-holocaust