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03-27-2013, 07:24 AM
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THE OBAMA LIE EXPOSED; SEBELIUS ADMITS OBAMACARE WILL INCREASE HEALTHCARE COSTS !
In the face of reality, the Obama Administration can't continue their lying..................
Sebelius Finally Admits Premiums Will Rise as a Result of ObamaCare
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius is finally admitting that the Affordable Care Act isn't actually that affordable. Think tanks have been warning for years about the expensive cost of ObamaCare and many have already seen their health insurance premiums rise as a result of its implementation yet, the administration has denied the bill will actually increase costs for consumers until now.
Some people purchasing new insurance policies for themselves this fall could see premiums rise because of requirements in the health-care law, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told reporters Tuesday.
Ms. Sebelius’s remarks come weeks before insurers are expected to begin releasing rates for plans that start on Jan. 1, 2014, when key provisions of the health law kick in. Premiums have been a sensitive subject for the Obama administration, which is counting on elements in the health law designed to increase competition among insurers to keep rates in check. The administration has pointed to subsidies that will be available for many lower-income Americans to help them with the cost of coverage.
The secretary’s remarks are among the first direct statements from federal officials that people who have skimpy health plans right now could face higher premiums for plans that are more generous. She noted that the law requires plans to provide better benefits and treat all customers equally regardless of their medical claims.
“These folks will be moving into a really fully insured product for the first time, and so there may be a higher cost associated with getting into that market,” she said. “But we feel pretty strongly that with subsidies available to a lot of that population that they are really going to see much better benefit for the money that they’re spending.”
Most people who have "skimpy plans" have them because they either a) don't need a fancy health insurance plan b) can't afford a health insurance plan. Forcing consumers into plans they don't need or can't afford is counter productive. Not to mention, Sebelius argues consumers will see a "much better benefit for the money that they're spending." Better benefits? Does she mean better benefits of having fewer doctors?
Most physicians have a pessimistic outlook on the future of medicine, citing eroding autonomy and falling income, a survey of more than 600 doctors found.
Six in 10 physicians (62 percent) said it is likely many of their colleagues will retire earlier than planned in the next 1 to 3 years, a survey from Deloitte Center for Health Solutions found. That perception is uniform across age, gender, and specialty, it said.
Another 55 percent of surveyed doctors believe others will scale back hours because of the way medicine is changing, but the survey didn't elaborate greatly on how it was changing. Three-quarters think the best and brightest may not consider a career in medicine, although that is an increase from the 2011 survey result of 69 percent.
"Physicians recognize 'the new normal' will necessitate major changes in the profession that require them to practice in different settings as part of a larger organization that uses technologies and team-based models for consumer (patient) care," the survey's findings stated.
About two-thirds of the survey responders said they believe physicians and hospitals will become more integrated in coming years. In the last 2 years, 31 percent moved into a larger practice, results found. Nearly eight in 10 believe midlevel providers will play a larger role in directing primary care.
Or how about the better benefits of fewer life saving medical devices thanks to the innovation and job killing medical device tax in ObamaCare?
Biomedical or medical device engineering firms are already laying off workers who develop crucial medical products due to the "unforeseen" costs, or in other words, the costs of ObamaCare. Not to mention, the more money these companies pay to the government, the less money they have to invest in research and development.
The Obama administration is no longer trying to lie about ObamaCare, instead they're simply trying to justify the lies by making everyone feel better about the so-called benefits ObamaCare will offer at a much higher price.
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03-27-2013, 07:57 AM
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Liberals would never lie to the American people now would they?
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03-27-2013, 10:12 AM
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Oh how funny, I just found this article myself. I love it. It's like the one time we get to say, " HA FUCK YOU LIBS, WE TOLD YOU SO." except now that we're right, it sucks just like we said it would. God I hate being right. It's not really a win.
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03-27-2013, 11:09 AM
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according to Exnyr, projections are made by people who travel in time..
space cadets
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03-27-2013, 11:16 AM
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CJ still believes in the Obama promise that Obamacare will bend healthcare costs lower..........
Fucking idiot.................
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03-27-2013, 11:19 AM
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think i'll wait and see what happens when healthcare takes full effect, then decide what the costs are
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03-27-2013, 01:35 PM
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You have consistently made the false claim that it will lower costs; glad to see you no longer can support that position, but retreat to the lesser "wait and see" standard............
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think i'll wait and see what happens when healthcare takes full effect, then decide what the costs are
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03-27-2013, 01:49 PM
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Playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded revolver.
Lets wait and see if he gets his head blown off.
ha ha ha ha
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03-27-2013, 01:50 PM
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given the significant increases on insurance premiums over the last decade your point is moot ..
it stands to reason paying a subsidy to a person that cant afford insurance is cheaper than paying for 100% of their medical needs at a county hospital on the state/federal tab
unless youre an idiot
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03-27-2013, 01:50 PM
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Nothing will stop them from beating this dead horse some more. Truly, when Howdy Doody included repeal of the healthcare law in his budget projections, did it give you a flavor for how delusional they all are? Whirly lives in his own fantasy world....I think he truly believes that he is a part of the conservative entertainment industry doing his duty by making his daily crazy postings here. I don't doubt that he fancies himself sort of a 3rd tier Rush Limbaugh or something.
Zealot lunatic or 'tard? I dunno, but it's one of the two.
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03-27-2013, 01:52 PM
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Everything negative regarding Obama's failures is "beating a dead horse." to Timmyboy..............He can't stand to see the Emperor criticized.
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03-27-2013, 01:56 PM
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It doesn't other me in the least to see President Obama criticized. But, you don't offer "criticism", you offer hateful propaganda, mostly inaccurate and a lot of it, outright lies, based on your twisted mindset. I think the Captain covered it in the other post. You come off as a lunatic zealot whose opinions are not to be taken seriously.
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Everything negative regarding Obama's failures is "beating a dead horse." to Timmyboy..............He can't stand to see the Emperor criticized.
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03-27-2013, 02:03 PM
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Everything negative regarding Obama's failures is "beating a dead horse." to Timmyboy..............He can't stand to see the Emperor criticized.
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being critical is one thing
being a party parrot pushing inaccurate talking points is another
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03-27-2013, 04:21 PM
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No link. No credibility. No big surprise.
You're preaching to the retarded, asswipe!
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03-27-2013, 10:45 PM
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It doesn't other me in the least to see President Obama criticized. But, you don't offer "criticism", you offer hateful propaganda, mostly inaccurate and a lot of it, outright lies, based on your twisted mindset. I think the Captain covered it in the other post. You come off as a lunatic zealot whose opinions are not to be taken seriously.
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Timmy, the "hateful propaganda" was a statement from the Obama administration's Secretary of HHS. Are you saying Obama is spreading "hateful propaganda" about his own program?
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