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Old 02-20-2013, 11:52 PM   #1
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Default Oliver Stone says Americans are living in an “Orwellian state”

When an ultra libtard like Oliver Stone can see what is happening, how stupid are the libtards on here, who can't?

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While he isn’t exactly friendly to the free market point of view, you have to hand it to Oliver Stone, at least he’s consistent in his criticism of presidents who overstep their constitutional boundaries.

During a recent interview, Stone, who directed JFK and Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps, told the Russia Today that the United States “has become an Orwellian state” and called President Barack Obama a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

While many on the Left have given silent consent to the policies of the current administration, including reauthorization of the PATRIOT Act and robbing Americans of due process through indefinite detention and drone strikes, Stone expressed shock and outrage at Obama, who was supposed to be “a great hope for change.”

“I think under the disguise of sheep’s clothing [Obama] has been a wolf,” Stone told the Russia Today. “That because of the nightmare of the Bush presidency that preceded him, people forgave him a lot.”

He added, “He has taken all the Bush changes he basically put them into the establishment, he has codified them.”

Stone, who has recently co-authored a new book with Peter Kuznick, The Untold History of the United States, showed concern for what contempt President Obama has shown during his first term and what his second term may have in store. He explained, “[W]e are going into the second administration that is living outside the law and does not respect the law and foundations of our system and he is a constitutional lawyer.”

“Without the law, it is the law of the jungle,” Stone noted. “Nuremburg existed for a reason and there was a reason to have trials, there is a reason for due process – ‘habeas corpus’ as they call it in the United States.”

Kuznick also chimed in on some of the privacy concerns that he sees with this sort of overreach. “The US government now intercepts more than 1.7 billion messages a day from American citizens. That is email, telephone calls, other forms of communication,” Kuznick noted. “Can you imagine: 1.7 billion? We’ve got this apparatus set up now with hundreds of thousands of people, over a million of people with top security clearances in this kind of nightmarish state, this 1984 kind of state.”

Stone agreed, noting that we now live in an “Orwellian state.”

“It might not be oppressive on the surface, but there is no place to hide,” Stone explained. “Some part of you is going to end up in the database somewhere.”


http://www.unitedliberty.org/article...rwellian-state
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It's sort of ironic to hear a radical leftist like Stone warn against abuses from a radical leftist like Obama. Someone should ask Stone how he is able to reconcile his devotion to privacy and due process with his admiration of Fidel Castro.

George Orwell was also a socialist like Stone. It's deja vu all over again.
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It isn't clear if Stone is left of Obama, or vice-versa; but no matter, both are Anti-American and Anti-Constitution.................. both are collectivists who use Orwellian speak to their advantage!
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Where the libs? Why aren't they supporting one of their own?
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