Simple Explanation of Senate's Failure to Pass a Budget

[EXTXOILMAN]

http://washingtonexaminer.com/byron-...7#.UOt5-7Y89CY

See paragraph #2. No budget, no accountability. Thus, $6 trillion in new deficits since 2008. Of course, many of you don't want to know, or don't care, as long as your Obama money keeps coming.

[gnadfly]

Interest article but I'd like to know

- What specific law Reid is violating
- What is the enforcement or penalties of the law
- Why isn't the enforcement or penalty being invoked

[CJ7]

the article leaves out the most imprtant fact ..

the president budget proposal was sent to the house, there it was altered to include making the tax cuts permanent along with other items on the republican save/kill list ... theres no way it would pass the dem senate and didnt even get a single dem vote .. ergo; the presidents budget wasnt his budget so to speak

basically the same applys the the house budgets that were passed ... they cut the programs the dems want to save, and save the programs the republicans want to save .. ergo; never made it out of the senate ...

political stalemate ruled by inane partisan hackery at the expense of the people

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by CJ7

the article leaves out the most imprtant fact ..

the president budget proposal was sent to the house, there it was altered to include making the tax cuts permanent along with other items on the republican save/kill list ... theres no way it would pass the dem senate and didnt even get a single dem vote .. ergo; the presidents budget wasnt his budget so to speak

basically the same applys the the house budgets that were passed ... they cut the programs the dems want to save, and save the programs the republicans want to save .. ergo; never made it out of the senate ...

political stalemate ruled by inane partisan hackery at the expense of the people

So then why not just bring it up for a vote on the Senate?

OR why can't the Senate just take the House bill, do the usual hatchet job on it, pass it, then send it to back the House for reconciliation?

[Yssup Rider]

Crickets

[Sidewinder]

For openers, there's Article I, Section 9, 7th paragraph: "No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time."

More to the point is 2 USC 632, which starts off by saying "On or before April 15 of each year, the Congress shall complete action on a concurrent resolution on the budget for the fiscal year beginning on October 1 of such year."

[Guest123018-4]

Budgets are meaningless to Democrats.

[EXTXOILMAN]

Originally Posted by CJ7

the article leaves out the most imprtant fact ..

the president budget proposal was sent to the house, there it was altered to include making the tax cuts permanent along with other items on the republican save/kill list ... theres no way it would pass the dem senate and didnt even get a single dem vote .. ergo; the presidents budget wasnt his budget so to speak

basically the same applys the the house budgets that were passed ... they cut the programs the dems want to save, and save the programs the republicans want to save .. ergo; never made it out of the senate ...

political stalemate ruled by inane partisan hackery at the expense of the people

CJ, you forgot that O'Blunder's budget submissions have been voted down in the Senate with ZERO votes the last three years, Republican or Democrat. They are nothing more than the attempt of a socialist, idealogue, academic with no economic experience to come up with a wish list of giveaways. The budgets that have passed out of the House have been from Paul Ryan, et al, and Harry Reid has not allowed a vote on a single one of them.

Again, Reid and O'Blunder don't want a budget because then they would have to account for the spending they ram through uncontested. No budget, no accountability.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by EXTXOILMAN

http://washingtonexaminer.com/byron-...7#.UOt5-7Y89CY

See paragraph #2. No budget, no accountability. Thus, $6 trillion in new deficits since 2008. Of course, many of you don't want to know, or don't care, as long as your Obama money keeps coming.

Typical RWW garbage. "We had nothing to do with it not passing! Not US!!! It's all THEIR fault!" Of course you know that but you don't care.

The nice thing is, the exact same quote fits the LWWs as well.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by EXTXOILMAN

CJ, you forgot that O'Blunder's budget submissions have been voted down in the Senate with ZERO votes the last three years, Republican or Democrat. They are nothing more than the attempt of a socialist, idealogue, academic with no economic experience to come up with a wish list of giveaways. The budgets that have passed out of the House have been from Paul Ryan, et al, and Harry Reid has not allowed a vote on a single one of them.

Again, Reid and O'Blunder don't want a budget because then they would have to account for the spending they ram through uncontested. No budget, no accountability.

I didnt forget squat, I told you why the senate rejected the budget submitted by el presidente'

look it up sport

[JD Barleycorn]

Look up the term "Kabuki theater". In other words just going through the motions for public consumption. BO submits a budget (which is more of an official request since budgets originate in the Congress) knowing it is toxic but he knows the press will never call him on it or hold him responsible for it. The Senate in a procedureal vote (no debate) just votes it down publicly. No one is involved and no budget exists which allows the White House to continue to spend without constraint. BO gets want he wants; the power to continue to spend without the responsibility to justify himself.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Look up the term "Kabuki theater". In other words just going through the motions for public consumption. BO submits a budget (which is more of an official request since budgets originate in the Congress) knowing it is toxic but he knows the press will never call him on it or hold him responsible for it. The Senate in a procedureal vote (no debate) just votes it down publicly. No one is involved and no budget exists which allows the White House to continue to spend without constraint. BO gets want he wants; the power to continue to spend without the responsibility to justify himself.

congress passes a continuing resolution, that resolution has to go through the republican house, a president of any cloth cant spend just to get what he wants and justify himself .. without the republicans signing off first

[fetishfreak]

Perhaps Obama should refuse to sign a continuing resolution, shut down the government, walk up to the Speakers office with the press core to talk about getting a budget deal done. Wait 7 minutes for him to come to the door than leave. Everyone will see that Obama is serious about getting a budget done and that Boehner is just flapping his lips.

[gnadfly]

Or Obama can pick up the phone and call Harry Reid and tell him to vote on the House's budget. My understanding is Harry Reid will not let it be brought up for a vote. If it is voted down, then the ball is in Boehner's court again.

My guess is that Obama doesn't want it brought up for Senate vote because it might pass and he'd be responsible for signing or vetoing it. Obama can't have that level of accountability.

-or how about this -

Obama submit a budget to the Speaker or thru the press. Obama promised transparency but all I hear is how the Boehner/Obama backroom negotiations fall thru. Let Obama make his demands public. I simply don't believe BHO when he says he wants a "balanced" approach. Let him put his cards on the table.